Quote Originally Posted by Othello
well I picked Sust because it is a well known HRT/TRT drug...and that was the base of my idea...to run a test compund as a replacement and not to gain muscle from it...wouldnt use susta in a normal cycle...tried it once and didnt like it....I might replace Susta with andriol (another TRT drug)...

the winny is not for gaining as much as for leaning out...var is unfortunately not readily available in Lebanon where I live...neither is Tbol...but the short cycle concept makes more sense, you are right...especially with Winny....
so far all my cycles have been 12 weekers (with a couple of 14 weekers)...might be worth it to try a 6 or 8 weeker...
I would dispute that. What are you basing that assumption on ?