naw dood, yeah, i could probably guess, but i got some nolva and pro from the same place, and again, you get what you pay for...i wouldn't even bother. chalk it up to experience, don't be such a cheap-ass like me, and get the goods...
but i do know what you're looking to "feel"...for me at least, i felt the frikin' heat comin' off my body, and i had a steady sweat goin' most of the day (no, no tren involved)...so i hear ya
kinda like that crappy Oxyflux...no jitter, bullshit Clen...oops, off topic, sorry