Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
actually if i thought that cycle was no good, i wouldnt have posted it as something i want to run. the dbol dose is not all over the place, its increased steadily to keep the gains coming. btw, the highest i suggested was 100 mgs ed, not 200.

it kinda surprises me that you think running dbol and winni at the same time is a waste. dbol will bulk you up, and the winni will solidify the dbol gains, plus add to the insane strength increases.
#1 d-bol you gain will be the same or better with and even dose of like 75mg. I will be effective because it will be more efficient with even blood levels.

#2 Winny. That is not how it works. The d-bol is going to bloat the muscled to retain more water. Winny will dry out the muscle to give you that hard full look. So if you run the d-bol and bloat the muscle along with separating the fiber. Winny will not add new muscle fiber and dry it out to get that hard look.