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i'm with you on this johan, though it seems way too many others are too involved with being "patriotic" and backing our govt's actions to see any reason here. i just don't understand how so many americans are completely blind to how things really are rather than just listening to what our media tells us?
Bush's approval rating is at an all time low, not many are backing this war. Give us some credit!
when we invaded iraq, we had no damn right to. if their people wanted change as bush claimed, they should've taken action themselves. if they can't, that should not be the responsibility of another country to do so for them. one country has no place to decide "what's best" for another. they don't live there, they don't see it everyday and live in it. they have no clue what's best for their people. but time and time again, the US govt intervenes with their conceited "we're right" attitude.
Sadamm had 10 years to let weapons inspectors in, we would be the primary target to all terrorist groups if in fact he had weapons, which he may or may have not. Even if he didn't at the time, I think we can all agree if he could have made them, he would have made them. Imagine a nuclear payload flying into the WTC....
i have seen posts complaining about other countries not taking action. well IMO, the US takes too much action, and keeps putting their noses where it doesn't belong. by doing so, they continually piss of more and more of the other countries at us, which will only potentially lead to more and more attacks on the US, either terrorist or otherwise.
We are damned if we do, and we are damned if we don't. The US is constantly being criticzed for taking too much action here, not enough action there, etc. In order to protect our interests, actions need to be taken everywhere. We are a global superpower. This is not an ego thing, it is a fact. In order to stay that way, measures must be taken. The only countries we are pissing off are the countries that seem hellbent on going to war with anyone who isn't Islamic or North Korean. I don't want nukes in the hands of someone who has publically stated that Israel should be "wiped off the map" do you?
personally, i think n korea is doing something really stupid right now, but in all honesty, you really think they can't make nuclear weapons covertly? this whole thing is just for attention and should not be humored. it's impossible to watch over a whole country and oversee all their actions. at least with him ranting about it like he is, we at least know what he's doing and can keep an eye on it.
No they can't, that's why the U.N. has weapons inspectors who specifically look for nuclear weapon uranium enrichment. The only way he could make them covertly is if he throws them out and refuses to let them in. We already had one maniac do that for 10 years. But all in all yes it is for attention, but every inferno starts with a spark, and N Korea is that spark
how would all you US citizens like it if the US started doing some kind of new weapons research and another country started telling us "no, you can't do that"? chances are, you'd think "f*ck you, it's our country and we can do whatever we want". however, when you see the US do it to another country, you expect them to think it's acceptable? eventually, the US is gonna push around the wrong country, and eventually one of those countries is gonna push back, and "big brother" is gonna be in for a big surprise when one day a country we finally push too far makes 9/11 look like a scratch on the knee.
The difference is the United States does not need nuclear weponry as part of it's agenda, we have it as a deterrant against massive offensives against us. The other countries in pursuit of nuclear weponry have not demonstrated over their histories that they will not use it covertly and/or sell it off to terrorists. Why would we allow Iran to just produce all the nukes it wants? Would it be a good diea to let N Korea just have a hydrogen bomb? None of these countries will ever be able to inflict a wound on a much higher scale than 9/11, simply because we are preventing them from doing so in the early stages.
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