clen is good stuff go 2weeks on 2weeks eca. my personal preference is if im on anabolics that test is always a must. my girlfriend got depressed when i was on a dbol and eq cycle because i didnt really want sex. if you want to keep injection to a minimum use some sust and 1/4 tab of arimidex ed, or if you dont mind the injs use prop go ahead and use the winny ed sides should stay to a minimum.