test e/ tren

[dblock189]

Hey guys....I am running my second cycle shortyl and have some questions for you's.

My first cycle was 1-12 test e and 10-16 winny eod.

Im 5,8 185 12.5 bf. I was thinking about running test e/ with tren but..as i was researching you would not run test e with tren a, as there different esters...for a second cycle would it be okay to run tren e instead? i know its not suggested just incase the sides are bad and its not short acting...but anybody have any oppinions? i was planning on doing 400mgs of tren e a week? Im open to any oppinions, or if you have a better cycle in mind please let me know...i was thinkgin about eq but i hear the results are not that favorable...help a bro out... By the way the reason why im not doing prop and tren a is because i have test e.. already just so you's know

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[manwithin]

Well it’s no problem to run tren a with test e just that you will have to shoot the tren a ed and test e twice a week. If this is your first time with tren I wouldn’t run tren e, your best bet it to get some test prop and put it in the same shot as the tren a and take it ed.

[dblock189]

Yea i know....Cant i just shoot 100mg eod? i hear its less sides if you do it ed because your keeping the blood levles stables but i hear people doing it with no sides...also how would you run that cycle then? since one is a long ester and one isnt? Yea thats what i was thinking of doing it but i had some test e laying around that i might as well use...

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[manwithin]

Well if you have test e and tren a and want to run the tren a eod here is how it should look.
Sunday 8am test e 250mg with 100mg tren a same shot.
Tuesday 8am 100mg tren a
Thursday 8am test e 250mg with 100mg tren a same shot.
Saturday 8am 100mg tren a
Sunday 8am test e 250mg
Monday 8am 100mg tren a
Wednesday 8am test e 250mg with 100mg tren a same shot.
Friday 8am 100mg tren a
Sunday 8am test e 250mg with 100mg tren a same shot

Now I messed with the test e shots a little I shoot them every 3.5 days but here I moved them either 12 hours ahead or 12 hours behind so you can cut down injections. IMHO I don’t think it would be a problem with test e. Now I haven’t taken tren a so I have no idea about the eod thing so hopefully someone else will chime in.

[dblock189]

Manwithin you are the man lol......that sounds good...only thing is could i adjust those hours like lets say everyday at 6..pm instead of 8 am .I am at work already at that time..Also how long would the tren 4? 8 weeks? how when would i start it?

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[SMAN12b]

May I ask what your specific goals are for this cycle and why you want to go with Tren?
Most people will say tren is not for the beginner cycles but it depends on your goals

[dblock189]

I would like to put on some lean mass....and get cut up and with tren i hear the strength gains are good and you also get cut up...of course with proper diet and cardio...do you have another cycle suggestion? i just thought this would be the best one....i gotta try tren lol..

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[SMAN12b]

For a second cycle I would go with Test and Deca personally great gains, less sides

[pdog80]

I have to agree with sman on this one. Tren for a second cycle is a bit much. The sides from tren can get pretty bad. Some people are very sensitive to it small amounts while others don't really get sides even at high amounts. For my second cycle, I ran sus, deca, d-bol and got very good gains from it.

[dblock189]

Yea but how about the bloat? what do you think deca will exactly do for me? i dont know much about it? I no it will put on mass...i dont want to get a moonface and i hear it happesn with it...even with an ai...idk..is it going to help me burn some fat or get leaner...i no, no juice burn fat...i think i can handle the sides of tren i hear people going it but i might just go with the deca...whats a good reason to take it?

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[dblock189]

I mean i plan on going down to about 11% bf i start my next cycle just that if i can handle the sides i think tren would really help me out in my goals? what do you think about eq?

[SMAN12b]

Yea but how about the bloat? what do you think deca will exactly do for me? i dont know much about it? I no it will put on mass...i dont want to get a moonface and i hear it happesn with it...even with an ai...idk..is it going to help me burn some fat or get leaner...i no, no juice burn fat...i think i can handle the sides of tren i hear people going it but i might just go with the deca...whats a good reason to take it?

dblock

I am on test e and deca right now. i am taking arimidex at .5/day and 4 weeks in with NO bloat at all !!!!!

As mentioned above, it is a great mass builder and will lubricate your joints for heavy lifting

[pdog80]

Well, the sides are mild compared to tren and the strength gains from it when you stack it with test is good. Also using an AI like l-dex should keep a lot of the bloat in check. Deca is great for the joints too. I'm just recommending deca/test for your second cycle. You can add tren to your 3rd or 4th cycle.

[pdog80]

Your on test/deca, sman? I'm on andropen/parabolan cycle. Loving the gains.

[dblock189]

What would be a cycle you recommand on that?

test e 500mgs wk 1-14
deca 400mgs wk 1-12
of course ancilliares and pct


am i going to c good results? with that?

how does your cycle look like sman? if you dont mind me asking?
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[SMAN12b]

What would be a cycle you recommand on that?

test e 500mgs wk 1-14
deca 400mgs wk 1-12
of course ancilliares and pct


am i going to c good results? with that?

dblock

That looks great for a second cycle. you should see great results. if you search on here, there are a couple threads goin on about deca, and deca only which i dont' recomend ever, but you will be happy with this cycle

[pdog80]

You should see good results with that provided that your diet and routine are spot on. Also, remember to be patient because test e and deca take awhile to kick in. Expect to see some results in from weeks 4-5 on.

[dblock189]

One more thing bro lol...do you personally think upping the dosage of each 100mgs will be worth it because i would have some left over? Also, when do you start seein deca working? i will do my research but now that im talking to you i'd figure i'd get it direct from you bro...thanks i really appreciate it for real

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[manwithin]

Manwithin you are the man lol......that sounds good...only thing is could i adjust those hours like lets say everyday at 6..pm instead of 8 am .I am at work already at that time..Also how long would the tren 4? 8 weeks? how when would i start it?

dblock

Yeah the time dosen't matter as long as it's the same time everday. But I think swan is right test/deca makes a better second cycle.

[dblock189]

Yea im thinking about it...i been researchin eq also but its too long to run...i cant make up my mind....to many good and bad things about both and everybody has different oppinions...i know eq you have to run like 14 weeks so i am then going to have to be on test for atleast 15..so idk wat to do still thinking... i appreciate your info both you guys...really helped me out...

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[michaelmotorcycle]

alot of people say that tren is not good for bigginers