First cycle opinions?

[Kale]

Would 500mg produce more gains than 250mg for a FIRST cycle? I would beg to differ.

Maybe for a more experienced user, but for a first time juicer, I would think the difference would be completely minimal.

Hey mate you obviously have a lot of experience that you can share with is here, can you give us some background on what you have done cycle wise in the past ?

[Tactikz]

Hey mate you obviously have a lot of experience that you can share with is here, can you give us some background on what you have done cycle wise in the past ?

My first cycle ever was

Weeks 1-12 - 500mg Karachi Sust (2x250mg - week)
Weeks 1-12 - 400mg Deca
Weeks 1-6 - 40mg D-Bol ED
Weeks 12-15 - 50mg Fina ED
Weeks 16 - 20 - PCT

I shot up almost 50lbs in 3-4 months with this cycle and kept around 20-25. It did the job I wanted it to do. I shot up from 185-235.

I then did several cycles mainly around Test/Fina/Winny that ranged from 1g of Test a week to as low as 200mg of Test a week.

I went clean almost 2 years ago. However, I may get back into it.

When I was 235 I would say I was at aroudn 13-14%bf, and when I cut down I was aroudn 195 at 7-8% which was extremely difficult for me to maintain.

[Hellmaskbanned]

My first cycle ever was

Weeks 1-12 - 500mg Karachi Sust (2x250mg - week)
Weeks 1-12 - 400mg Deca
Weeks 1-6 - 40mg D-Bol ED
Weeks 12-15 - 50mg Fina ED
Weeks 16 - 20 - PCT

I shot up almost 50lbs in 3-4 months with this cycle and kept around 20-25. It did the job I wanted it to do. I shot up from 185-235.

I then did several cycles mainly around Test/Fina/Winny that ranged from 1g of Test a week to as low as 200mg of Test a week.

I went clean almost 2 years ago. However, I may get back into it.

When I was 235 I would say I was at aroudn 13-14%bf, and when I cut down I was aroudn 195 at 7-8% which was extremely difficult for me to maintain.

Thats one crazy first cycle!

[Kale]

Thats one crazy first cycle!

Mine was Test, Deca and Var

[Tactikz]

Thats one crazy first cycle!

lol, trust me, I knew. haha...

[Kale]

My first cycle ever was

Weeks 1-12 - 500mg Karachi Sust (2x250mg - week)
Weeks 1-12 - 400mg Deca
Weeks 1-6 - 40mg D-Bol ED
Weeks 12-15 - 50mg Fina ED
Weeks 16 - 20 - PCT

I shot up almost 50lbs in 3-4 months with this cycle and kept around 20-25. It did the job I wanted it to do. I shot up from 185-235.

I then did several cycles mainly around Test/Fina/Winny that ranged from 1g of Test a week to as low as 200mg of Test a week.

I went clean almost 2 years ago. However, I may get back into it.

When I was 235 I would say I was at aroudn 13-14%bf, and when I cut down I was aroudn 195 at 7-8% which was extremely difficult for me to maintain.

Kewl thanks for the reply. So what was your experience with 200mg to 1G of Test, I have done 500mg and 1.5G and I did not notice one bit of difference. Now I am 51 so it may be a little different phsyciologically for me though.

[Tactikz]

Kewl thanks for the reply. So what was your experience with 200mg to 1G of Test, I have done 500mg and 1.5G and I did not notice one bit of difference. Now I am 51 so it may be a little different phsyciologically for me though.

The main differences I noticed between 250mg of Test vs. 1g of Test was the side effecst.

1g of Test = water retention (edema), High BP, acne, muscle spasms, aches, pains and general feeling of unhealthiness

200mg of Test = No side effects

Muscle gains I'd say were almost equal on both. That's why I now favour lower dosages. IMO, high dosages are a business scam. The people who truly push high dosages are dealers looking to cash in, when, in my personal experience, I've noticed that the lower dosages work equally as well and leave me healthy.

I get my blood work done regularly and I'm 100% fine. When I was running 1g of Test, my BP was 160/140 which scared the shit out of me. I quickly got off and my cycle after that I ran 200mg of Test with the same diet and my BP was 110/70. Loved it.

[Liftnainez]

The main differences I noticed between 250mg of Test vs. 1g of Test was the side effecst.

1g of Test = water retention (edema), High BP, acne, muscle spasms, aches, pains and general feeling of unhealthiness

200mg of Test = No side effects

Muscle gains I'd say were almost equal on both. That's why I now favour lower dosages. IMO, high dosages are a business scam. The people who truly push high dosages are dealers looking to cash in, when, in my personal experience, I've noticed that the lower dosages work equally as well and leave me healthy.

I get my blood work done regularly and I'm 100% fine. When I was running 1g of Test, my BP was 160/140 which scared the shit out of me. I quickly got off and my cycle after that I ran 200mg of Test with the same diet and my BP was 110/70. Loved it.

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