tell me why

[goosed]

tren is not recommended for someone who hasnt did many cycles? im not disputing this reasoning i just want to hear why!

[2bshredded]

Don't know...maybe becasue it's hard core. Just my opinion, not for the fresh aas user.

[MrMeathead]

tren is not recommended for someone who hasnt did many cycles? im not disputing this reasoning i just want to hear why!

It is 500 androgenic and 500 anabolic! It is far from a beginner steroid.

[goosed]

i guess i should be a little more specific with my question. i understand that it is the most powerful steroid and with that comes many side effects! but is the reason because if you start with something that strong from the get go it will take at least that dosage of tren (the most powerful) or more to get results in the future and no other drug will give you results?

[2bshredded]

IMO you can use lesser type of AAS and get just as good of results. I did!
I wanted the most bang for my buck as well, but didn't want to jerpordize later cycles, start where your'e supposed to.

[goosed]

see thats my thinking on it, i think if you use something that potent early in your cycles then you will get less results from other drugs that are not 500/500 type aas. but im not ceartin on this, thats why im asking! please anyone tell me!

[Bigmax]

The fact that its powerful is not the reason for it being not recommendable to a beginner....its the fact thats a very harsh on the system compound....the sides can be really disturbing and it has been known to really lower your red blood cell count and thats not good....the reasoning of using the most powerful compounds first is horrible....just cause one compond works does not mean it will make way for others as far as them working or not working any better.

[goosed]

so is your system more prepared for a harsh compound after a few cycles? i dont know, that reasoning dosent make sense to me either but im sure you know a whole lot more than myself. but please explaion it in a little more detail for me, im just trying to understand it hear. no matter what anyone post im not baseing whether i do tren right now off of it!

[pdog80]

Thanx for pointing that out, Max. I didn't know tren lowered your red blood count. I guess you learn something new everyday.

[Bigmax]

I would imagine yes,in a way it is priming your body to do one and two less sides compounds in order to go further and find what works for you without getting hurt.I mean some people can do deca by itself with no prob.Then you get a guy that will do it by itslef and cant get a hard on to save his life.

[goosed]

how many cycles or after using what compounds would you say soemone is ready for tren?

[powerlifter]

how many cycles or after using what compounds would you say soemone is ready for tren?

You are just dead set on using Tren aren't you ?

[goosed]

no im dead set on finding out why someone without very many cycles under their belt should not use tren. i guess im just unclear on why it matters, however bigmax did make a good point about your body not being ready. if i want to do something im gonna do it, im personally a little scared of tren, dont know if i will ever do it. its not on the agenda for this cycle. im just trying to find out about it, im not trying to be talked into doing it.

[G-1000]

Your ligaments and tendons can not hold the additional strength. you will build muscle much faster and over power them.

[goosed]

making even more sense! thanks for all the input, keep it coming!

[G-1000]

also as a newbe you dont know how to combat the side. like prolactin and test shut down. Pct is a bitch and not done right you will loss most gains.

[G-1000]

newbe run it with out test. The first thing they will bitch about is limd dick. Night sweets lack of red blood cell. that is why eq works well with tren.

[goosed]

i hated pct when i came off of test e and deca!!!! but i had absolutley no sides other than a little water weight from the deca. i took proviron the whole time i was on also so that maybe why i had no sides. i had no sides on a test only cycle too, so i may be lucky!
what other sides are associated with tren that is not common with others? or are the sides the same just stronger with tren?

[SlamPigatHome]

I would think it would be fine as long as you don't take too much of it

[goosed]

I would think it would be fine as long as you don't take too much of it

great advise

[goosed]

how does the eq work well with tren??? please tell me more about that!

[SMAN12b]

so is your system more prepared for a harsh compound after a few cycles? i dont know, that reasoning dosent make sense to me either but im sure you know a whole lot more than myself. but please explaion it in a little more detail for me, im just trying to understand it hear. no matter what anyone post im not baseing whether i do tren right now off of it!

Maybe not so much your system is ready, but you will have better knowledge of how your body reacts to compounds before starting off with one that is heavy on sides. If anything, I would start with Tren A and NOT Tren E so that is you are noticing really bad side effects, you can stop and it is out of your system a lot quicker

[goosed]

id like to start with your avatar actually!!!!! haha, thanks sman!

[dedic8ed1]

great advise

Your on to this newb to huh

[goosed]

yeah, he had some stupid ass junk in the lounge too. i say lets get rid of his dumbass!

[dedic8ed1]

yeah, he had some stupid ass junk in the lounge too!

I second the motion,All those in favor say I

[SMAN12b]

id like to start with your avatar actually!!!!! haha, thanks sman!

Which one, I have sooooo many!! I will share

[SMAN12b]

yeah, he had some stupid ass junk in the lounge too. i say lets get rid of his dumbass!

ADMIN has been advised of his postings, so it is in their hands now

[goosed]

Which one, I have sooooo many!! I will share

the one in the avatar now!!!!

[Bigmax]

great advise

LOL...The reason he said eq runs good is cause eq is known to increase red blood cells....actually I dont see anyother reason...eq is so mild and slow...but again to each his own...also ive ran tren by itself with no prob...I sleep like baby...stay cool...and fuk like a stallion....so there you go.

[Bigmax]

But goosed if thats you on the avvy you're fuked bro...nothing will help you...LMAO...J/K bro.

[SMAN12b]

the one in the avatar now!!!!

You got PM bro, as long as you get rid of that freak in your avy.....lolol

[goosed]

i dont look swole??? lol

haha,man if that was me i would need meth not gear!!

[dedic8ed1]

But goosed if thats you on the avvy you're fuked bro...nothing will help you...LMAO...J/K bro.

ha I think you hurt what little pride ha had left

[goosed]

haha, im taking my pride on to bed with me now!

[Bigmax]

LOL...goodnight ...dream about TREN...LOL

[Kale]

But goosed if thats you on the avvy you're fuked bro...nothing will help you...LMAO...J/K bro.

LMAO !!! Its not a good look Goosed, people actually relate to you because if your Avatar. Its true, everybody here loves me !!!

[scriptfactory]

Your first cycle should be test alone to make sure you know how your body reacts to it but there is no reason why you can't run low dose (50mg ED or 75mg EOD) Tren A on your 2nd or third cycle. As long and you have researched and are thoroughly prepared to use it (i.e. correct PCT, cycle length, supplements etc.)

In Europe many people run low dose Tren alone for their first cycle (with proviron + letro) or something like that and have no problem at all... I don't recommend it but many people do it and don't mess their whole bodies up.

[goosed]

i may try it on my 4th cycle, this next one coming i already have it planned out and im not going to deviate! i had just got to reading a bunch of stuff yesterday on tren and it got my wheels to spinning and i wanted some opinions on it! i appreciate everybodys help!

[Dangerdan]

Your ligaments and tendons can not hold the additional strength. you will build muscle much faster and over power them.

Did this quote just make anyone else wanna go pick up some tren immediately or is it just me?