Real advice needed HGH vs. Test

[SMYL_GR8]

I joined this board a few years ago and did my basic research. I then became very busy with my career and put all my energy into professional and spiritual growth. Now, I have a renewed dedication to my fitness and I've spent the past 6 weeks getting my foundation back and am ready to incorporate gear. The question that I can't seem to find a clear answer to is this:

If money is no object, why should I do a test based cycle when I could do a HGH based cycle?

It seems all beginner cycles are test based and HGH cycles are reserved for advanced users. Is this so or have I not thoroughly searched?

31
6" 2"
195
10% or so bf

[Hellmaskbanned]

I joined this board a few years ago and did my basic research. I then became very busy with my career and put all my energy into professional and spiritual growth. Now, I have a renewed dedication to my fitness and I've spent the past 6 weeks getting my foundation back and am ready to incorporate gear. The question that I can't seem to find a clear answer to is this:

If money is no object, why should I do a test based cycle when I could do a HGH based cycle?

It seems all beginner cycles are test based and HGH cycles are reserved for advanced users. Is this so or have I not thoroughly searched?

31
6" 2"
195
10% or so bf

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That was quick.



Why not do both?


Test = Fast gains
HGH = slow gains

[italianplayboy09]

yea extremly quick

[SMYL_GR8]

yea extremly quick

I'll specify. My workoout program for the past few years has been inconsistent with moderate intensity and focused more on maintenance, but I did go regularly. There were a few stretches of two weeks or so that I did not work out at all, but never more than that. The past six weeks, I have raised the intensity, consistency and diet. My strength numbers are back up to where they used to be. By the time I decide on a cycle, complete my research, acquire ancillaries and schedule out the cycle, it will be at least another four to six weeks.

[SMYL_GR8]

^
That was quick.



Why not do both?


Test = Fast gains
HGH = slow gains

Yes, I was considering a Test E/LR3 cycle.

[Xtralarg]

If you want quality muscle gains with fat loss over a long period then HGH is the key, AAS can help you along and you will see much quicker results with them. The big difference is that whatever progress you make with HGH you keep! Its not just a 'quick fix' like AAS can be.

Look at it over a 12 month period, run the HGH stright thru and plan your cycles properley. At the end of the 12 months you can look back at the progress you have made and decide if you want to continue.

All IMHO.

[SMYL_GR8]

If you want quality muscle gains with fat loss over a long period then HGH is the key, AAS can help you along and you will see much quicker results with them. The big difference is that whatever progress you make with HGH you keep! Its not just a 'quick fix' like AAS can be.

Look at it over a 12 month period, run the HGH stright thru and plan your cycles properley. At the end of the 12 months you can look back at the progress you have made and decide if you want to continue.

All IMHO.

This is also my thinking.

1.Am I correct in thinking that I will have fewer sides with the HGH than Test?
2.Is "growth gut" unavoidable or occurs with high doses only?

Thanks

[Xtralarg]

This is also my thinking.

1.Am I correct in thinking that I will have fewer sides with the HGH than Test?
2.Is "growth gut" unavoidable or occurs with high doses only?

Thanks

1.You will get different sides, usually though as you get used to the HGH the sides dissappear. The best advice I can give you here is to get good quality 191aa hgh, stay away from the cheper 192aa.

2.I wouldnt worry about GH gut too much, everyone is different though and whilst some may not suffer easily, others may do. To give you some idea, I run 10iu 5/2 and have done so for quite some time, so far i have evaded GH gut.

[Wizeguy]

I'm running 3IU 5/2 . A low dose but I will give it time. I noticed after the 3rd week that my body hair all of a sudden spurted will new growth. I'm sleeping better than i have in years also. Other than that I havnt really seen seen anything in the muscle department, buts its way too early (start of week 5). I'll probably run it for about a year. I'm also doing it with TestC and Deca. And , Yes, its expensive! HGH has the ability to to split or multiply cells as AAS expands them. So HGh with hyperplasma capabilities can be awesome. Time will tell for me. But I'm not sure if 3iu is going to give me anything substantial.

[SMYL_GR8]

I'm running 3IU 5/2 . A low dose but I will give it time. I noticed after the 3rd week that my body hair all of a sudden spurted will new growth. I'm sleeping better than i have in years also. Other than that I havnt really seen seen anything in the muscle department, buts its way too early (start of week 5). I'll probably run it for about a year. I'm also doing it with TestC and Deca. And , Yes, its expensive! HGH has the ability to to split or multiply cells as AAS expands them. So HGh with hyperplasma capabilities can be awesome. Time will tell for me. But I'm not sure if 3iu is going to give me anything substantial.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=208314 is one of many threads with dosing suggestions. 3 is on the low side, but are you staying at three the whole year?

[SMYL_GR8]

bump for input
thanks

[spywizard]

i would suggest you should tell us your goals..

do you want to compete.. is this an early mid life crisis (nothing wrong with that)

or do you want to glide into middle age as fit as you can be.. not that 31 is middle age.. (ok.. you're close) but what would your goals be..

[spywizard]

typically 3iu would be for fat loss and some muscle growth.. 4-6iu would be for more muscle growth with fat loss..

i would suggest since it's your 1st time..

1.5iu am and 1.5iu in the late afternoon.. use a low dose t3 or t4 during the gh cycle..

bump to 4iu split 2/2 with 5 on 2 off for at least 6 months... after doing the 3iu per day to get use to the compound..

happy days..

[SMYL_GR8]

i would suggest you should tell us your goals..

do you want to compete.. is this an early mid life crisis (nothing wrong with that)

or do you want to glide into middle age as fit as you can be.. not that 31 is middle age.. (ok.. you're close) but what would your goals be..

No, it's not age-related and I don't want to compete. I want to put on the 20 to 30 pounds of quality muscle that has evaded me these past few years. It seems that a HGH cycle is superior in terms of kept gains and side effects as compared to a test cycle, it just costs a lot more and since finances are not an issue, I thought I should start off with the most superior compounds.

[perfectbeast2001]

you wont put on 20-30 pounds using hgh alone. How about HGH+TEST rather than Vs.

[clozr]

If you want quality muscle gains with fat loss over a long period then HGH is the key, AAS can help you along and you will see much quicker results with them. The big difference is that whatever progress you make with HGH you keep! Its not just a 'quick fix' like AAS can be.

Look at it over a 12 month period, run the HGH stright thru and plan your cycles properley. At the end of the 12 months you can look back at the progress you have made and decide if you want to continue.

All IMHO.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Over the course of a year, the gh will seriously augment any cycles that you do.

[Wizeguy]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=208314 is one of many threads with dosing suggestions. 3 is on the low side, but are you staying at three the whole year?

Thanks for that link. I booked marked it and will read it later. I may bump it to 4 IU, but the expense is an issue for me.

[SMYL_GR8]

you wont put on 20-30 pounds using hgh alone. How about HGH+TEST rather than Vs.

I'm beginning to think this might be the way to go. Thanks.

[rodge]

hgh+test+t4 is some great synergie

-rodge

[SMYL_GR8]

hgh+test+t4 is some great synergie

-rodge

Have you done this personally?
If so, what was your cycle and your benefits from it?
Thanks

[rodge]

Have you done this personally?
If so, what was your cycle and your benefits from it?
Thanks

yes i have. i cycle hgh for 9-10 months a year at a dose between 10-35iu a week. all this time i run t4 at 100mcg ed (used to be t3 at 25mcg). test is atleast 250mg ew(hrt) and can go up to 2500mg ew while on cycle, other aas vary acording to my goals.

-rodge