its depends if you the type of guy that finished a test cycle a while back and is carying leftover water for months from a raised estrogen level..i think you will find winni very good in this case...but if you have never cycled before it will still dry you out but not to the same extent as if you carieing estrogen related water.. i also hear masteron is amayzing at drying one out but i have never used it yet im stating it this monday so ill keep you posted if it drains myself better than winstrol did.