truat me, i know IPF record holders of the past who never were tested and JUICED alot of there powerlifitng years. this is going back to when the USPF was thr organization that wass affiliated with the IPF.if you think about it, you may be able to guess who i am talking of,it isnt hard to figure out. one who i know through a friend absolutely admits to it, and the other, i know has failed drug tests at least twice, and everyone turned their heads and looked the other way.and it was never mentioned in any of the powerlifting magazines at the time.Originally Posted by suns