What is the shortest cycle reccomended?

[Kale]

Long acting ester can and are used in short cycles. But it's not for the novice aas user. Stick with a moderated dosed 10-12 week cycle.

Exactly. Saying long esters cant be used in short cycles is not correct, but the doses have to be extremly high for it to be effective.

[The_Canibal]

Exactly. Saying long esters cant be used in short cycles is not correct, but the doses have to be extremly high for it to be effective.

but how effective are they??sides vs gains???compared to short cycles

[Kale]

but how effective are they??sides vs gains???compared to short cycles

There are quite a few threads around talking about this. Marcus300 is the guru on this. I was just about to do one but I am having a big Prostate issue at the moment so I have put it on hold, but in a nut shell the idea is to get the body primed for the short cycle, this is done by basically going on a low carb cutting diet for 8 to 12 weeks and then starting the 4 week cycle after that. The doses are enormous for it to be successfull and I will not discuss the doses here, but those who have done this reckon its the only way to go for experienced AAS users. With only four weeks for a cycle the sides are almost zero. This thread describes the Prime http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ht=prime+cycle