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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    And, I notice that you declined to respond to my question,
    And what's this ". . . their children are force-fed the gay propaganda" BS? What exactly is this gay propaganda you are speaking of?
    Am I to construe that you have no response, and therefore was merely just "blowing wind," attempting to make gay people look like participants in some sort of conspiracy?
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    Will you ever answer my question?
    When you do, then I will answer yours.

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    Have you not learned by now? Most of what you say or ask is not worth the time to reply to it? I will just do what most of the population would do with you and your gay banter.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    I will just do what most of the population would do with you and your gay banter.........
    Which is "I have nothing logical to back up my statement so I'll just pretend that I'm above it all to make myself feel better."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Which is "I have nothing logical to back up my statement so I'll just pretend that I'm above it all to make myself feel better."
    The problem is in your comprehension skills my friend, my Mensa membership will validate that. I do not want to hear about nor do I care about what you do in the privacy of your own home/apartment/trailer--whatever. One's actions and decisions in life are your's to bare. I do not judge someone for their sexual choices, but why do you insist on labeling yourselves in regards to your sexual choices? Is this all that you are---GAY? When you throw these life decisions in others faces who do not want to hear about it, you become just like the Bible bouncers who knock on our doors on Saturday morning trying to forcefeed their agenda. The door usually gets slammed in their faces, are we prejudice for doing so or do we simply not want to hear about it? Don't tell us about your sexual decisions, we just don't care. Do not force your decisions on me in an effort to alter my decisions. Just as you have the right to choose the gay lifestyle, I have the right not to condone it. Call it what you will, prejudice....people have the right to their opinions just as you do to yours. Those who oppose anything gay have become the targets of the gay population...for a group that demands understanding from the rest of us, you sure don't reciprocate. Keep your bedroom out of my living room and out of my kid's classroom! If you do not like MY decision, don't worry, I am not going to try to make you like it......get my point?
    Next wave of "minority groups" that will demand "equal rights":
    - polygamists will demand "equal rights" in regards to how many wives they can take. "If the gays can inter-marry, why can't I marry as many woman as I want?"
    - pedophiles will demand "equal rights" in regards to their right and a child's right to choose to engage in sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    . . . why do you insist on labeling yourselves in regards to your sexual choices? Is this all that you are---GAY?
    Every time you mention your children or wife or girlfriend or whatever, you pretty much tell the world that you're a heterosexual. It's no different for we gays. We have boyfriends, you have girlfriends. What we say identifies us, what you say identifies you. You're being unreasonable when you say that we shouldn't tell what's going on in our lives, but it's ok for you and people you approve of to tell what's going on in theirs.
    You may as well get used to it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Keep your bedroom out of my living room and out of my kid's classroom!
    Then you do the same. You want to keep gays off TV? Fine. Then keep heterosexuals off TV too. You want books portraying gay relationships out of schools? Fine. Then keep books portraying straight relationships out of schools. As they say down at the strip club, "Tit for Tat."







    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    polygamists will demand "equal rights" in regards to how many wives they can take. "If the gays can inter-marry, why can't I marry as many woman as I want?"
    As far as I can see, there is no compelling reason for the government to deny consenting adults the right to form polyamorous relationships. Maybe you know of a reason, but I can't think of any. Ever have a 3-way? Then you know of how much more fun they can be than just a run-of-the-mill 2-way.






    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    - pedophiles will demand "equal rights" in regards to their right and a child's right to choose to engage in sex.
    I don't think so. Children are not allowed to form contracts because they are presumed not to be mature enough to make informed decisions. Age requirements exist for those wishing to marry for the same reasons. Children are protected from sexual exploitation under the same reasonable age restrictions. So, in the remote possibility that some lone pedophile might demand "equal rights to have sex with young children," he or she will have to show why young children should be free to sign binding contracts with lending institutions, labor companies, businesses, the military, etc. And that will be very difficult.

    You are such a worry-wart..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    Every time you mention your children or wife or girlfriend or whatever, you pretty much tell the world that you're a heterosexual. It's no different for we gays. We have boyfriends, you have girlfriends. What we say identifies us, what you say identifies you. You're being unreasonable when you say that we shouldn't tell what's going on in our lives, but it's ok for you and people you approve of to tell what's going on in theirs.
    You may as well get used to it.
    I do think its a little different. Yes i guess it can be taken for granted that I'm hetero when I'm talking about my gf. Just like it would be assumed your gay if your talking about your bf. I just think the difference gays seem to not just let it be assumed or taken for granted. They announce it and make sure its know they are gay. It never their lover its their gay lover. Duh your a guy hes a guy of course he is your gay lover. I could figure it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I do think its a little different. Yes i guess it can be taken for granted that I'm hetero when I'm talking about my gf. Just like it would be assumed your gay if your talking about your bf. I just think the difference gays seem to not just let it be assumed or taken for granted. They announce it and make sure its know they are gay. It never their lover its their gay lover. Duh your a guy hes a guy of course he is your gay lover. I could figure it out
    Honestly, I've never heard a guy call his lover "gay lover." Weird that you say you hear it often and I never have. I've hear lover, partner, husband or boyfriend. I say boyfriend. Not "My gay boyfriend!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Honestly, I've never heard a guy call his lover "gay lover." Weird that you say you hear it often and I never have. I've hear lover, partner, husband or boyfriend. I say boyfriend. Not "My gay boyfriend!"
    Ya, same here. Actually, I hear the term "Partner" or "Life Partner" these days. "Lover" is kind of old-fashioned . . .

    Anyway, Logan seems to object to gay people appearing in public as anything other than people that pass for being heterosexual. He doesn't want to see it, he doesn't want his kids to see it, doesn't want anyone's kids to see it. He just wants gays to go back into the closet and stay there.
    Well, somehow I don't think that is going to happen. Just like I don't think that he's ever going to tell us just what exactly that "gay propaganda" he mentioned in the first post of this thread is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Honestly, I've never heard a guy call his lover "gay lover." Weird that you say you hear it often and I never have. I've hear lover, partner, husband or boyfriend. I say boyfriend. Not "My gay boyfriend!"
    I don't here it alot. But do here it often when out. And its usually less professional people. You are correct i wouldn't think i would you introduce someone like that, But out in the city at night i do hear it. It doesn't bother me but i was trying to answer your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    The problem is in your comprehension skills my friend, my Mensa membership will validate that. -Logan13
    BTW, are you really a member of Mensa?

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    yes, since 1997

    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    BTW, are you really a member of Mensa?
    141 is my number.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    141 is my number.............
    That wasn't the question.
    Are you really a memer of Mensa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    That wasn't the question.
    Are you really a memer of Mensa?
    I said yes in my post title. Why are you as well?

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    Originally Posted by Tock
    And, I notice that you declined to respond to my question,
    And what's this ". . . their children are force-fed the gay propaganda" BS? What exactly is this gay propaganda you are speaking of?
    Am I to construe that you have no response, and therefore was merely just "blowing wind," attempting to make gay people look like participants in some sort of conspiracy?
    -Tock


    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Have you not learned by now? Most of what you say or ask is not worth the time to reply to it? I will just do what most of the population would do with you and your gay banter.........
    Have I not learned by now? Well, what I have learned is that you delight in demeaning other folks, and when challenged to back up what you say, there never is "proof for your pudding." I hope you don't cook for a living.

    But go ahead, proove me wrong. Tell us all exactly what this gay propaganda you're speaking of. We are all on the edge of our seats, holding our breath, waiting for this information.

    Can you do it?

    -Tock
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