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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    I think you can stop beating that particular dead horse. We all already know Logan doesn't know what he is talking about in regards to that statement... He was, to put it succinctly, talking out of his ass.

    I have given you far too much credit here in the past......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13

    I have given you far too much credit here in the past......
    Logan, do you honestly think there is some kind of gay conspiracy going on?! If you truly believe this I am very interested in knowing what it is! My aunt was a lesbian and I grew up around many, many gays/lesbians and never once did I think there was some kind of gay conspiracy to take over the world. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or funny, I would really like to know your thoughts on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    Logan, do you honestly think there is some kind of gay conspiracy going on?! If you truly believe this I am very interested in knowing what it is! My aunt was a lesbian and I grew up around many, many gays/lesbians and never once did I think there was some kind of gay conspiracy to take over the world. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or funny, I would really like to know your thoughts on this.
    Conspiracy? Did I use that term or are you just exaggerating my position? If the 3 of you can not determine what the "agenda" is that I speak of in my long post above, I will not waste anymore time clarifying it. I will some up my position, as I did above like this: If you do not like MY decision, don't worry, I am not going to try to make you like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Conspiracy? Did I use that term or are you just exaggerating my position? If the 3 of you can not determine what the "agenda" is that I speak of in my long post above, I will not waste anymore time clarifying it. I will some up my position, as I did above like this: If you do not like MY decision, don't worry, I am not going to try to make you like it.
    What you were calling the "gay agenda" is more like the "gay fight for equal rights." I'm sorry but I don't think that is a bad thing... There was a time when people were talking about the "female agenda" and the "black agenda" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scriptfactory
    What you were calling the "gay agenda" is more like the "gay fight for equal rights." I'm sorry but I don't think that is a bad thing... There was a time when people were talking about the "female agenda" and the "black agenda" as well.
    Sorry, I do not see the "gay agenda" as being on the same level as the women and black equal rights movements. These two groups had both a moral and legal basis, who we choose to have sex with does not meet that criteria. Neither The Bill of Rights nor the Constitution gives American citizens the right to marry.....anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Sorry, I do not see the "gay agenda" as being on the same level as the women and black equal rights movements.
    I didn't think that you would.






    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Neither The Bill of Rights nor the Constitution gives American citizens the right to marry.....anyone.
    For that matter, the Constitution doesn't specifically give citizens the right to go shopping, play pianos, or work out at the gym. But does that mean that the government should be free to restrict entire segments of the population from doing those things?

    The 9th Amendment to the US Constitution says, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." This essentially means that if the Constitution is silent on marriage rights for heterosexuals, it doesn't mean that the right for straight folks to marry doesn't exist. And, as they say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, so the same principle applies for gays as well. If you contend that there is a Constitutional exception in that right that applies only to gays, I'd like to see where you find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    I didn't think that you would. Sure you didn't. Again you need to work on your comprehension skills........
    For that matter, the Constitution doesn't specifically give citizens the right to go shopping, play pianos, or work out at the gym. But does that mean that the government should be free to restrict entire segments of the population from doing those things?

    The 9th Amendment to the US Constitution says, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." This essentially means that if the Constitution is silent on marriage rights for heterosexuals, it doesn't mean that the right for straight folks to marry doesn't exist. And, as they say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, so the same principle applies for gays as well. If you contend that there is a Constitutional exception in that right that applies only to gays, I'd like to see where you find it.
    Where do you think that the foundation of marriage comes from? It comes from religion, this is why it is not in the BOR or Constitution. The foundation for marriage, especially in the US, has always been through religion. How can a group embrase one part of religion for the purpose of marriage and yet not respect religions' thoughts on homosexuality. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian philosophy, you do not have to like it, but it is most certainly fact!

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