Best Test Booster Ever?

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Here it is. Enjoy.

[vermin]

Heeeey, who got the job of watching all that rat sex?

Seems like the part we care about is here:

3.3 Serum testosterone The administration of various doses of the plant extract resulted in a significant increase in serum testosterone concentration throughout the period of administration (P < 0.05). The various doses (18 mg/kg, 50 mg/kg and 100 mg/kg body weight) produced two-, three- and six-fold increases compared with the control by the end of the experimental period (Figure 6).

-in rats

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The rodent data was used to explain why fadogia was effective as an Erectile Dysfunction treatment in men.

Since that study was published, the author (a scientist in Nigeria) has beun studying the herb in greater detail.

[vermin]

So is there an ED study in men, or was it just a folk remedy that they decided to take a look at more seriously, starting with rats?

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So is there an ED study in men, or was it just a folk remedy that they decided to take a look at more seriously, starting with rats?

No ED study in men yet. Just something that they decided to take a look at more closely, starting with rodents. I believe after rodents, they will move on to testing it on owners of private/invite boards, and then eventually on humans.

Anyway, after corresponding with the scientist who performed the study, I am sure that it has the same effects in men. He mentioned it probably being able to increase synthesis of Intra-Testicular Cholesterol into Testosterone as well, but since he hasn't finished up that study yet, I can't "officially" claim that to be true as a mechanism of action.

Also, he is trying to isolate the exact saponin that causes the elevation in testosterone, and once that is done, I'll have that information too.

[magic32]

Very impressive, looks like a winner.

Anthony,

Blackwell Synergy, and rightly so, is charging for the full study. Do you have the PDF copy which includes significance levels? I'd be very interested in seeing Figure 6, which should denote the actual levels of increase the various doses (18 mg/kg, 50 mg/kg and 100mg/kg) produced beyond mere .05 significance, as well as day by day. And for that matter, out of sheer curiosity, I'd like to see the other varible tables too.

Also, if the Saponins were properly extracted and do indeed raise LH levels, and in turn testosterone, what do you suppose the implications of long-term elevation might be? I wouldn't expect shut down to be an issue, as surmised early in this thread, since the Test is natty and not synthetic, however I would think the maintence of such levels would be virtually uncharted thus far. In other words have you read, facts or theory, or hypothesized yourself consequences of extensive use? Any thoughts towards, limiting elevatation time (time on) like a warning: "Do not use for more than consecutive months", complacency effect (the body adapts to the new level), diminishing returns, etc?

M.

[notorious_mem]

if this test booster is as good as it says could it replace injectable test?

bump

[magic32]

Replacement is not it's purpose, but rather supplementation. This was addressed earlier in the thread.

M.

[l2elapse]

and this is ok for a 20 year old to take?

[Anavar Man]

Anthony,
I weigh 240 lbs. and plan on taking 4 capsules per day. If I have a baseline serum test level of around 600ng/dl does it stand to reason that it will jump to 1800 to 2000ng/dl using the 4 caps each day? If so, that would be equivilant to 600 to 750 mgs. of synthetic test per week?

[vermin]

Unless I am mixing up units, 300mg of test/week should give you about 1200+ total test, and I think with the doses you are mentioning you should get a whole lot higher than 2000. I have been assuming that "3" (or up to 5, depending on if you go with the published dose or the hope that the ancillaries augment the effects to the degree hoped) might be about the same as 250-300mg/week in terms of total test.

The paper goes up to what I think would be the equivalent of about 18 caps a day, which if I am playing along at home correctly would correspond to the 600-750 mg/week total test.

[jinos]

Just bought a bottle of this stuff. Got my bloodwork done last week and my total test is 270. Let's see if this stuff really works. Once I finish, I'll give you guys an update with new bloodwork. For some reason I feel it will have no effect, but only time will tell.

[SS1476]

Just bought a bottle of this stuff. Got my bloodwork done last week and my total test is 270. Let's see if this stuff really works. Once I finish, I'll give you guys an update with new bloodwork. For some reason I feel it will have no effect, but only time will tell.

Good luck bro...I look forward to your feedback.

[DSM4Life]

Just bought a bottle of this stuff. Got my bloodwork done last week and my total test is 270. Let's see if this stuff really works. Once I finish, I'll give you guys an update with new bloodwork. For some reason I feel it will have no effect, but only time will tell.

Yes, please let us know how it goes. I am curious as well as i am sure everyone else is.

[vermin]

Just bought a bottle of this stuff. Got my bloodwork done last week and my total test is 270. Let's see if this stuff really works. Once I finish, I'll give you guys an update with new bloodwork. For some reason I feel it will have no effect, but only time will tell.

Do you know why your test is so low to begin with? It seems we have (at least) three potential populations: Naturals, PCTs, and folks with some sort of test issue. Of the three it seems most interesting and yet most difficult to propose how this substance might help those with an "issue", as this depends on one's natural ability to produce test.

Does HCG work for you?

[Teegunn]

I'm very interested in hearing/seeing how this works in the real world when used by us humans. Those using it - please update this thread as often as possible. Of course, having blood work done before and after would be nice.

If this stuff works even half as good as Anthony claims, we should all be happy campers.

[jinos]

I had low test to begin with because AS permanntly messed it up. My last cycle was 1 1/2 ago. Before the cycle, it was around high 300's. I did proper pct protcol w/ hcg, nolva,clomid,etc. I took a blood test and it was onlt 125 test total!!! So I took all the BS natural crap such as tongkat, trib, dynadrol, and so forth. Crap, even my doctor rec. I go on HRT. It was good while it lasted, but everyone's different. I'm 26 and been training for 6 years and done total of 3 cycles. Look at all my postings. You'll see I've done proper cycles w/ pct. There's even before and after pics. Longest cycle was only 10 weeks that consisted of test/deca/dbol. I just want to get back to the size I was before cycling, but I'll keep ya bruhs updated on this MyogenX stuff. Just to really be serious I'll even do another bloodtest after I finish this stuff.

[chuck89gt5.0]

I had low test to begin with because AS permanntly messed it up. My last cycle was 1 1/2 ago. Before the cycle, it was around high 300's. I did proper pct protcol w/ hcg, nolva,clomid,etc. I took a blood test and it was onlt 125 test total!!! So I took all the BS natural crap such as tongkat, trib, dynadrol, and so forth. Crap, even my doctor rec. I go on HRT. It was good while it lasted, but everyone's different. I'm 26 and been training for 6 years and done total of 3 cycles. Look at all my postings. You'll see I've done proper cycles w/ pct. There's even before and after pics. Longest cycle was only 10 weeks that consisted of test/deca/dbol. I just want to get back to the size I was before cycling, but I'll keep ya bruhs updated on this MyogenX stuff. Just to really be serious I'll even do another bloodtest after I finish this stuff.

I can relate bro, my test levels are permantly f*cked up because of AAS. And I also followed proper PCT and such.It happens people.

[BlInDsIdE]

mine is fvcked as well....

[vermin]

Hey, so's mine and as far as I know I'd never even been in the same room as AAS before it happened, so it just happens, period.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

Hey, so's mine and as far as I know I'd never even been in the same room as AAS before it happened, so it just happens, period.

jesus


maybe u guys should run a full pct every 3 months or so to pull them up.

u may even want to run adex between nonstop. overal estrogen inhibition is a great way to stimulate the balls it seems. AI's have been used in hypogonadol men. plus one study found that those with no aromatase enzyme had overgrown balls.

just curiois.....how many u guys used 19 nors?

and did you guys do big shots of hcg or small frquent shots? Anthonys protocal is just awesome wen it comes to his hcg usage.
might as well rock out the myogenx too. cant hurt.

just a thought.

[vermin]

In my case they think I may have had a stroke in my pituitary, so will be very interesting to see what will work. HCG does have some effect, so the LH route is evidently open. Still I think just never going below 300mg/week test may be my best long-term bet.

[DSM4Life]

Pennslyvania, nice , where at ?

NE Philly myself.

jesus


maybe u guys should run a full pct every 3 months or so to pull them up.

u may even want to run adex between nonstop. overal estrogen inhibition is a great way to stimulate the balls it seems. AI's have been used in hypogonadol men. plus one study found that those with no aromatase enzyme had overgrown balls.

just curiois.....how many u guys used 19 nors?

and did you guys do big shots of hcg or small frquent shots? Anthonys protocal is just awesome wen it comes to his hcg usage.
might as well rock out the myogenx too. cant hurt.

just a thought.

[I_Want_Abs]

i just ordered 2 bottles

[HighandWide]

Anthony...

Please tell me if this is correct....the full dose will give you 200% test production correct? But isn't it also correct that your body doesn't absorb everything we feed it...So is it true to say its 200% if everything is absorbed but significantly less absorbtion is prob more realistic....Something to do with biological values. I wouldn't make this claim if it were a steroid but with it being plant extract I am wondering

Final Question is how did u come up with the name....it so closely resembles the product line Myogenix

repost for a response

H&W

[magic32]

If you don’t mind, I’ll answer the first question.

It’s true absorption/bioavailability rates apply to everything that is orally consumed (i.e. food, drink, supps, drugs, etc.), but therein lies the beauty of experimentation. In laboratory science the independent variable (level of testosterone increase), can be measured by manipulation of the dependent variable (amount of Fadogia agrestis alkaloids and saponins consumed). So you see, absorbability has already been factored in, because the dependent variable was measured post-consumption. With three measurements (the three experimental groups: 18; 50; & 100mgs) one can apply simple math to deduce the amount needed to render the desired Test level increase.

M.

[Anavar Man]

If I have a 600ng/dl and it gets increased by 200% I would be at roughly 1800ng/dl. Based on a dose of 3 capsules. I haven't taken a blood test will on in some time. I would think that 600 to 750mgs. EW of synthetic would raise you up to at least 2000ng/dl. I have heard of tests in the 3000 range but not much higher than that.

[vermin]

Ah, this is why we could use the graphs. You are assuming that the 200% is an additional 200%, I have been assuming that it refers to doubling. You may be right, that is a more conservative way of expressing the data which is consistent with scientific publications. On the other hand, when marketing a new product there is often a tendency to express that same result as "300%", which they are not, and so I had been making the more conservative assumption.

[Anavar Man]

I guess we will see what happens. Any increase in natural test production will be welcomed. I won't be cycling again until the end of December of Jan. It will be interesting to see if this will work as a bridge along side some proviron.

[Anavar Man]

Where is Anthony Roberts?
Ever since MyogenX hit the scene, Anthony has not been back to this thread?

[goose]

He will be back!!

[vermin]

Where is Anthony Roberts?
Ever since MyogenX hit the scene, Anthony has not been back to this thread?

With all the orders coming in, he now has enough money that he doesn't have to stop at 5 Sam Adams...

[Anavar Man]

Anthony, Where are you?
My myogenX will be here tomorrow. I'm as excited as I would be for a regular cycle. I need to relax, I will be very surprised if this stuff does what it claims to. If so, this will revolutionize the supplement market

[l2elapse]

did anyone say how long it takes to get the increase?

[chuck89gt5.0]

No offense to Anthony but I feel like this is way over-hyped. I dont see this being too much different than most "herbal" test boosters. But I guess only time will tell.

[Rip it]

jinos i would really like to see how your blood work comes back and see if this stuff really works. I also have a Question i am almost 19 so it's to early for me to take roids but what about if the test booster worked and did rise you 200% would their be anyside effects like grown plates or lower natural lever?

[l2elapse]

jinos i would really like to see how your blood work comes back and see if this stuff really works. I also have a Question i am almost 19 so it's to early for me to take roids but what about if the test booster worked and did rise you 200% would their be anyside effects like grown plates or lower natural lever?

hey i am turning 20 in like 8 days and i ordered this and i did my research and i think its ok because this product is not a hormone(gear), it is a herb just like tribulus in the way it acts upon the lutenizing hormone.

[Andros]

Anthony, theoretically speaking how would a PCT with MyogenX look like if you had Aromasin, Myogen X, Proviron and Nolva at your disposal?

I am leaning towards only using MyogenX and Aromasin (if MyogenX directly stimulates LH release then there is no use for Nolva and vit E is already included right?), what do you think?

[notorious_mem]

anthonys spending your money in aruba right now leave your name and number and he will call you back.lol

[l2elapse]

anthonys spending your money in aruba right now leave your name and number and he will call you back.lol

lol fo sho where is he