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[bradhore]

Hi peeps, my name is Brad and im 19 years of age.

Ive been training for over a year now, and have recently started using AAS.

Im 5ft .10
86kg
14.5% body fat

Im on week 6 of my cycle, of taking 500mg / week of test e.

Just need a few pointers, im having trouble with getting my bodyfat down, ive cut out all crap food, i eat a max of 100g carbs a day (sweet bars Nutri Grain) plus the carbs contained in other meals.., with min 250g protein, yet im finding it very hard to reduce my bodyfat.

I AM on a bulking diet whilse using AAS.

Is it true that protein can turn into carbs fat if not used (whilse working out), is this the prob im having? Although i workout min 4-5 days a week in the gym.

[shrpskn]

Welcome to AR...

I've found that a bulking diet can complicate reducing the bf%, however, If you clean it up more, yet keep the cals up there, you can probably keep the bf% from increasing.
I'm on a bulk diet myself, but it's a strict diet as well...very clean...maybe a cheat once every other week or once a week at the ultimate most. I still find it extremely difficult to reduce bf% while bulking, but can keep it stable...the real reduction in bf% occurs with me when I run a cutter, and tighten up the noose on my diet.

Post up your complete diet in the diet forum for some critique and hopefully some bros in there can point out where you might be going wrong with your diet and where you are right...
Remember, diet is critical to any real progress that you're going to or not going to make with your training regimen and the combined use of AAS.

Good luck,

-Shrpskn

[RYNO]

Hi peeps, my name is Brad and im 19 years of age.

Ive been training for over a year now, and have recently started using AAS.

Im 5ft .10
86kg
14.5% body fat

Im on week 6 of my cycle, of taking 500mg / week of test e.

Just need a few pointers, im having trouble with getting my bodyfat down, ive cut out all crap food, i eat a max of 100g carbs a day (sweet bars Nutri Grain) plus the carbs contained in other meals.., with min 250g protein, yet im finding it very hard to reduce my bodyfat.

I AM on a bulking diet whilse using AAS.

Is it true that protein can turn into carbs fat if not used (whilse working out), is this the prob im having? Although i workout min 4-5 days a week in the gym.

Welcome Brad! Step away from the juice ... too young bro, IMHO

[bradhore]

Na im not,

look im 6 weeks into it now anyway, and i have done more than enough research i think. i know everything i need to know.

if i need to know anything else ill ask..

[shrpskn]

Welcome Brad! Step away from the juice ... too young bro, IMHO

Shit!..I didn't even spot his age in his post...

Seeing he's already 6 weeks in, I figured the advice I gave him is as good as I could give him.

Peace,

-ShrpSkn

[RYNO]

Na im not,

look im 6 weeks into it now anyway, and i have done more than enough research i think. i know everything i need to know.

if i need to know anything else ill ask..

Nice attitude. If you "know everything you need to know," why are you here asking questions?

[R1Champ]

Well if you did so much research you would've known that you should've cut your bf before you started cycling! What was your bf% pre-cycle?

[Competitive07]

On a bulking diet with 100grams of carbs, Good luck

19 too young IMHO, you still have a lot of natural growing

[t-gunz]

welcome brad. good luck with your cycle and let us know how it goes....

[Rye_guy]

aye, too young to be on AAS, but youre already balls deep into the cycle so wot can we say. this is a growing trend here, youngins comin in here tellin us they know it all, and know what they are doin, yet the ask why they arent gettin the gains or goals they had expected. hm, if you think you know it all, why is it you feel the need to ask for advice then garry additude when its not wot you wanna hear? if you know it all, shouldnt you expect to hear this?

anyway, you wanna keep fat down while bulking? I usually expect to gain a bit on a bulk and lose the fat later, I find fat is easier to lose than lean mass is to gain.

perhaps you should have dieted for a lower BF% prior to the bulk...
you may also want to up yer carb intake for a bulk...
for some reason I figure you should post yer diet in the diet forum so we can see it. unless your not going to listen to the adive handed there either.

[bradhore]

On a bulking diet with 100grams of carbs, Good luck

19 too young IMHO, you still have a lot of natural growing

when i said 100g of carbs, thats in sweet bars i buy (plus other carbs in my meals)

[bradhore]

btw the test e has not yet kicked in, coming up to 7 weeks.

[Booz]

Na im not,

look im 6 weeks into it now anyway, and i have done more than enough research i think. i know everything i need to know.

if i need to know anything else ill ask..

imo and many others yes you are too young,your natural testosterone is at its peak from now till you are around 21 and you are supressing this by using gear,imo you have not done your research otherwise you would have held off...
but at the end of the day the choice is yours and we can only advise you on what you should do.................

[perfectbeast2001]

Na im not,

look im 6 weeks into it now anyway, and i have done more than enough research i think. i know everything i need to know.

if i need to know anything else ill ask..

If you know so much why are you eating shitty nuri-grain bars. They are candy dressed up as health food. Post your diet for critique then watch the vultures pick over whats left.

[Hunter]

Brad there are alot of young guys here holding off to take advantage of our natty horomones and i am one of them and know about quite a few others. I would hit pct right away...an aggresive one to. I doubt your diet in 100% in check I know your not near your genetic limit or even close and most off all your messing with your natty hormones at a young age. Doest HRT mean anything to you becouse chances are you will become very familier with that abbrevation

[shrpskn]

when i said 100g of carbs, thats in sweet bars i buy (plus other carbs in my meals)

You're getting most of your carbs from sweet bars?...not good.
You want a whole lot more complex carbs, and not so much simple carbs. Especially when bulking.
Simple carbs aren't bad for a quick energy boost, lets say, pre-workout. Otherwise I try to avoid the simple carbs as much as possible.

Good luck,

[slooby]

Well he didnt ask if he was old enough and he made his choice so we just need to get off of that and answer her questions... In my bulking cycles i just try to eat everything that i can that is not fried or has simple carbs. everything else is good for me and i dont gain much fat, just muscle and a lil water. but this is what works works for me. if you are gonna grow you have to eat to grow and that requires a lot of food. which a small amount is going to turn to fat. good luck man i hope you figure it out and keep us up to date

[perfectbeast2001]

Well he didnt ask if he was old enough and he made his choice so we just need to get off of that and answer her questions... In my bulking cycles i just try to eat everything that i can that is not fried or has simple carbs. everything else is good for me and i dont gain much fat, just muscle and a lil water. but this is what works works for me. if you are gonna grow you have to eat to grow and that requires a lot of food. which a small amount is going to turn to fat. good luck man i hope you figure it out and keep us up to date

He needs a lot more than his questions answered, he does not even understand the basic common sense stuff. "I want to lose bodyfat" and "I am bulking" appearing in the same sentence and then admitting he gets his carbs from Sweets both kinda outline that. Either he posted this as a joke or he really needs to sit down and read some basic nutrition books.

[bradhore]

just because i eat x3 nutri grain bars a day pre work out you think thats all i eat?

my diet is not very extraordinary, just simple, and boring, but it works.
It just consists over min 8 boiled egg whites a day, and atleast 2 tins of tuna a day. i eat all i can to get around 250g protein down my throat put it that way.

[TheGut]

Na im not,

look im 6 weeks into it now anyway, and i have done more than enough research i think. i know everything i need to know.

if i need to know anything else ill ask..

Your hormones haven't even balanced out yet! You may not have problems now, but wait till you hit thirty!

[perfectbeast2001]

just because i eat x3 nutri grain bars a day pre work out you think thats all i eat?

my diet is not very extraordinary, just simple, and boring, but it works.
It just consists over min 8 boiled egg whites a day, and atleast 2 tins of tuna a day. i eat all i can to get around 250g protein down my throat put it that way.

List your diet in full.

[bradhore]

Meal 1:

4 Large Egg whites boiled
Bowl Of x 4 Whetabix
1 tin tuna

Meal 2:

1 Bannana
1 Apple
2 Nutri Grain Bar
Tina Sandwhich (1 tin)

Meal 3:
Normal Meal (Consisting of Beef/chicken) veg, sweet potatoes

Meal 4:
Brown Rice and Potatoes
4 Large Egg Whites Boiled
2 Nutri Grain Bars

Meal 5:
Bowl of x4 wheetabix before bed

All of this is taken, plus more, with protein shake 15mins before workout, then another straght after.

Not very extraordianry i know, a bit boring..

[theboss]

you need to eat more....whre is the red meat?

maybe this is better:

Meal 1:

half carton of eggbeaters (25g protien)
2 whole eggs
1 cup oats
glass of milk

Meal 2:
1 Bannana
Weight gainer drink made with milk

Meal 3:
Normal Meal (Consisting of Beef/chicken) veg, sweet potatoes
milk

Meal 4:
1 Bannana
Weight gainer drink made with milk

workout

Meal 6:
whey protien shake

Meal 7:
Normal Meal (Consisting of Beef/chicken) veg, sweet potatoes

Meal 8:
1 cup Cottage cheese

[theboss]

Just need a few pointers, im having trouble with getting my bodyfat down, ive cut out all crap food, i eat a max of 100g carbs a day (sweet bars Nutri Grain) plus the carbs contained in other meals.., with min 250g protein, yet im finding it very hard to reduce my bodyfat.
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woops...looks like you want to lose weight....disregard my previous post

[bradhore]

i want to reduce bodyfat but bulk at the same time, does this make sense

[JohnboyF]

i want to reduce bodyfat but bulk at the same time, does this make sense

Yes you want to add lean mass, with your diet approach will be very very hard.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=39010

it should look something like this but better adjusted to your stats. Also you need to do cardio to loose fat with a clean diet

[z3488]

You may be dedicated enough, but I thought I should share this with you. I am in EXACTLY the same situation. I am 19, almost 20. I decided to lay off the juice till late 20 or 21. YOU CAN GROW NATURALLY. I am living proof. I cleaned my diet up about 8 months ago and my BF is around 9% right now. I went from 149 to 166 in about a year. It is possible. Since you are already doing it, please let us know how it goes. Stay off it for a while after man. Its not worth it just yet. Wait until you cant grow anymore naturally, and then you will become a monster using AAS. I know I can get to 175, and that is what I am waiting for. Genetics also has a lot to do with it. The reason I will start at 175 is because I am already the biggest guy in my family going back 2 generations. Is your dad a big guy? If he is, ill bet you can be too. Your diet looks ok, but there are definately improvements to be made. Dont consider this a lecture. I am the same age as you and I wanted to share my situation with you to perhaps give you a paralell view of your situation. Things always make more sense hearing it from someone outside the box. Enjoy the juice, and remember, this is all weight that could have been put on natty.

[kwakisaki]

put weight on but wat about the BF? what if its getting into late 19's

[frank12391]

You're getting most of your carbs from sweet bars?...not good.
You want a whole lot more complex carbs, and not so much simple carbs. Especially when bulking.
Simple carbs aren't bad for a quick energy boost, lets say, pre-workout. Otherwise I try to avoid the simple carbs as much as possible.

Good luck,

Would he know the difference?

Get stuck into the diet forums and research nutrition. It might be a good idea to visit a nutritionist at least once. They will give you plenty of info hand outs and tell you where to get more info. Or you could use the money your spending on gear towards a personal trainer which will help you alot more than gear as it's only as good as your diet and training.