so you guys are saying if i took d-bol 30mg/d, for 6 weeks, take some protein supplements, eating awsome, workin out 6 days a week, that i aint gonna gain shit. Sorry to say it but i cant see that happening. I know ill bloat up with water but im still gonna be pushin like crazy and i think that will lead to something rather than notin. One question too....what if you just took Deca-dura by itself, is that bad too? just wondering.