Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
i dunno man most susts are composed of 30 mgs of prop and 60-80 mgs of another short estered tests. so in a sense youd be wasting 90-110mgs of the 500mgs. I wouldnt take less then 500mgs of any test a week so why would you do it with sust? If your going to just use 500mgs a week why wouldnt you just use Test E or C? The application doesnt suit the chemicals in the compound. His question was in regards to why he isnt seeing gains yet....its because the long estered tests take 5-6 weeks to kick in. the short estered tests would kick in much earlier but since he isnt using it correctly IMHO he will have to wait to see some gains. I personally wouldnt use less then 750mgs of Sust a week if i was going to use it, im not a fan though.

As to your claim that you have seen "incredible gains on 250mg 1x ew" well.... lol i dont want to get into a gay internet argument but im raising the BS flag on that one!
hahah bro im not saying it should be run that way im just stating u can still have great results onlow dosas
for a first timer that is
my first cycle was sus @250 mg 1x ew for ten weeks and i gained a little bit more then 30 lbs.and yes i can back that up
so in an unexperianced user 250 mg is plenty,but logically speaking it should be shot no les then 500mg 2x ew