First Cycle?

[James32812]

Ok this will be my first time using any steroids. I am 6'4" 215, around 13-15% bf, weight trained for a solid 1 1/2 yrs, took 8 months off, been back on hitting the weights hard for 5 months, looking to get to and sit at 230-235lbs around 8-10% bf. I am planning on doing:

wk 1-10: 500mg test cyp a week (half on mon/half on thurs)
wk 1-10: 300mg deca (half mon/half thurs)
wk 1-10: liv 52 every day
wk 1-10: 10mg novaldex every day (dont want gyno
starting week 12 pct: novaldex/clomid

Also would a product like proactiv help prevent the acne that test causes?

Let me know what you all think, i'm open to all suggestions

[Kale]

How old are you dude ?

[Booz]

what age are you mate?
if this is your 1st cycle 500mg test weekly for 12 weeks will suffice,save the deca for your second cycle,no need for it with your 1st...............

[KAEW44]

Some members say proctive is good when off cycle, but during cycle you cant fight the hormones from the surface of the skin! They will win!

[James32812]

Sorry, I knew I forgot something, I am 21

[James32812]

Ok, a few more questions:
1) I am curious as to why many people recommend just test without adding the deca on your first cycle. I thought the deca helped your body use the test and relieved joint pain?
2) Is there really much of a difference between injecting test cyp or deca once a week compared to injecting twice a week? Which is preferred and why?
3) I only have 20ml of test at 250/ml so I only have enough to do 10 weeks at 500mg a week. Should I lower it to 400 a week and do 12 weeks or stick wih 10 weeks?

[evil pepsi]

deca is good, but since this is your first cycle, keep it simple so that you can see how your body responds to the test. there are other reasons, but this is a quick one, hehe.
do some research on steroid profiles to get the answer to your second question.
ride it out for ten weeks...

[James32812]

Ive read the profiles ha probably atleast 10 times on 3 different sites, but anyway I know that test cyp and deca can be injected once a week because they have the longer esters, but a friend said he recommended twice a week for a more constant level of the aas. I'm new so I am not loking forward to injecting, so if once a week isnt really inferior to twice a week I would lean towards it.

I would also appreciate any more feedback on my questions above
Thanks

[evil pepsi]

Ive read the profiles ha probably atleast 10 times on 3 different sites, but anyway I know that test cyp and deca can be injected once a week because they have the longer esters, but a friend said he recommended twice a week for a more constant level of the aas. I'm new so I am not loking forward to injecting, so if once a week isnt really inferior to twice a week I would lean towards it.

I would also appreciate any more feedback on my questions above
Thanks

no offense, but it seems like you are really not ready...

[James32812]

Ha, i'm trying to figure out what makes you think i'm not ready? Because i would prefer to inject once a week rather than twice a week on my first cycle??

[GHO5T]

Reason you should inject or split up doses is to as your friend said keeping blood levels as stable as possible, and thus keeping sides to a minimum. Many bros also lean towards splitting up injects of such compounds like deca, test e/c, eq, etc... b/c this is how we have been taught and it just seems wrong doing it any other way.

[evil pepsi]

Ha, i'm trying to figure out what makes you think i'm not ready? Because i would prefer to inject once a week rather than twice a week on my first cycle??

no offense bro, but it just seems like maybe you need to research a little more. your questions show you did some, but it seems like maybe you just skimmed through it...

[James32812]

Well I respect your opinion. I must say though that i've done months of extensive research, but as i'm getting closer to starting my cycle I am eager to get as many opinions and as much info out of these vets as I can.

[axemurderer187]

looks okay, try to get some proviron and keep on the side to battle deca dick.

i personally don't like to run ancillaries thru a cycle unless I have too.

[axemurderer187]

btw: by ancillaries I was refering to your nolvadex not my statement about the proviron.

[SMAN12b]

Ok, a few more questions:
1) I am curious as to why many people recommend just test without adding the deca on your first cycle. I thought the deca helped your body use the test and relieved joint pain? It is suggested for many reasons, the main one being it allows you to LEARN how your body will react to it. If you use more than one compound , you will have no clue as to what could be causing you bad side effects or even good ones for that matter so you can adjust for future cycles.
2) Is there really much of a difference between injecting test cyp or deca once a week compared to injecting twice a week? Which is preferred and why? Injecting is based on the effective half life of the compound in order to keep blood levels as stable as possible to help reduce side effects
3) I only have 20ml of test at 250/ml so I only have enough to do 10 weeks at 500mg a week. Should I lower it to 400 a week and do 12 weeks or stick wih 10 weeks?You should NOT rush into a cycle just because you only have this or that. You should be mature enough to understand that you are now entering the science of your body and anything you stick into it can and will have an effect on your body for the rest of your life.

Ha, i'm trying to figure out what makes you think i'm not ready? Because i would prefer to inject once a week rather than twice a week on my first cycle??

this statement shows that you really are NOT ready to be doing a cycle of AAS. This is a commitment you have to make to do it the best way for your health. Not wanting to inject twice a week shows you don't have the commitment and shouldn't be doing any aas yet!!

[SMAN12b]

Ive read the profiles ha probably atleast 10 times on 3 different sites, but anyway I know that test cyp and deca can be injected once a week because they have the longer esters, but a friend said he recommended twice a week for a more constant level of the aas. I'm new so I am not loking forward to injecting, so if once a week isnt really inferior to twice a week I would lean towards it.

I would also appreciate any more feedback on my questions above
Thanks

I find it hard to believe that in all your "research", that you would still run the deca the full ten weeks with the test!!!

Deca should be stopped two weeks before your test in order for your PCT times to match. An 8 week deca cycle is pointless since it is such a long ester and takes 6-8 weeks just to fully kick in.

If you must do a cycle, start off correctly so you can continue for many years. Do the TEST ONLY !!

[James32812]

Ok so I'm glad with the feedback I have received, thanks guys. I will only do the Test for my first cycle. 250mg Mon 250mg Thurs, will run the novaldex, and will add anavar to the end of my cycle at 50mg ED, then do my pct.

[James444]

I would cosider it, sound ,top notch advise, from the man himself . Everyone here whats you to suceed. bro
btw keep the good attitude

[James32812]

Ha yah I dont mind getting reemed a bit. The advice on here is great, Ive learned a ton reading through all these threads, I wouldnt think of doing a cycle with out posting it up here and getting all your guys opinions