Quote Originally Posted by Manpretty
what is it about oral compounds that make gains hard to retain???

if this is true why do people bother kick starting with orals? following your reasoning the only gains youll see at the end of the cycle will be soley from the injects because you would lose the gains you made from the oral. or does your body say "no these orals gains are ok to keep because he ran injects with them, if he hadent run injects tho these gains would be outta here!!"

you obviously don't understand the basics of cycling with anabolic steroids and you have actually embarassed yourself presenting this argument. orals are used to kick start so gains can be seen more quickly when using a long ester such as test E or C. that does not mean that those gains from the orals will be kept, it's just to avoid 4-6 weeks of frustation of waitingf for those particular long esters to build up in the body.

once again, if you had researched, you would find that many experienced AS users no longer use orals to kick start as an injectable kick starter, such as Test Prop provides better KEEPABLE gains