Test E and Winny Cycle, Finasturide Okay?

[BIG LITTLE MAN]

Hairloss is in my family, my fathers hairline has receeded at the age of 45, and my grandfather was bald prior to his death. Im 23, I haven't noticed any hairloss as of now, although I have had a few say my hairline has receeded ever so slightly. To the point, Test and Winny both are known for their effects on male pattern baldness so my plan was to take Finasturide during the cycle, will this mixed with an oral form of Winny be too toxic for my liver? Should I wait till after Ive finished my 4 weeks of Winny to start taking Finasturide? Can anyone recommend a liver protectant other then your typical supplements?

23 yrs old
5'7
196lbs
18% BF

[ForceIsStrongWithMyD]

I know this isn't what you are looking for, but look into PROPECIA for stopping any potential hair loss. It's one of the top anti-hairloss (not a word... i know) pills on the market. Plus you can get a perscription from your doctor and your health plan should cover it. It's not harmful to your liver what-so-ever.

[chest6]

Finasteride should be fine. Im pretty sure it'll be useless against DHT's like winny tho. Get a hold of some topicals like spiro, minoxidil and azalaic acid.

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Oh and IMO, you are less than 18% bodyfat..

[KAEW44]

A liver supplement people praise is "Liv-52" it is a herbal powerful de-toxifying supplement many users of oral cycles use it.

It is normal that people say your hairline has receeded because its part of the maturing process that by age 25 your hairline does receed a little, it doesnt mean you are losing hair, its just how it goes things move back a little making your forehead look a little bigger.

As for using finasteride/propecia, what this pill does is it blocks an enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT, DHT is what your hair is sensitive to and it is what causes hairloss in people prone to it. Taking propecia/finasteride with your test-enanthate will reduce the conversion of test to DHT and might significantly save your hair.
However, Winny is a different substance, it is already been converted to a DHT while its in the pill, so taking propecia wont do anything to stop it! Thats why Winny/Winstrol/Stanazol is known to be harsh on the hairline to people prone to baldness, because you cant stop the 'conversion' to DHT if it is already in DHT form!

So if you are very very concerned with hairloss, consider naturally bodybuilding without AAS, if you want to take a half-half risk then drop the winny and do the test-enanthate with finasteride...keep in mind though still no guarantees!
If you dont care at all then go all out and do the winny and enenthate.

Keep in mind hairloss is genetic and every person is completly different, so dont take other peoples experiences as an example! Some people will go fully bald in their early twenties without ever doing a cycle in their life!
Others will do many many strong cycles and not lose a hair! I know examples of both!!

[Got Insulin?]

dont get mad but imo, id cut a bit more before hoping into some juice

[JEEP_XJ_4x4]

Oh and IMO, you are less than 18% bodyfat..

I'm going more like 12. But he's sucking in.

[hugovsilva]

A liver supplement people praise is "Liv-52" it is a herbal powerful de-toxifying supplement many users of oral cycles use it.

It is normal that people say your hairline has receeded because its part of the maturing process that by age 25 your hairline does receed a little, it doesnt mean you are losing hair, its just how it goes things move back a little making your forehead look a little bigger.

As for using finasteride/propecia, what this pill does is it blocks an enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT, DHT is what your hair is sensitive to and it is what causes hairloss in people prone to it. Taking propecia/finasteride with your test-enanthate will reduce the conversion of test to DHT and might significantly save your hair.
However, Winny is a different substance, it is already been converted to a DHT while its in the pill, so taking propecia wont do anything to stop it! Thats why Winny/Winstrol/Stanazol is known to be harsh on the hairline to people prone to baldness, because you cant stop the 'conversion' to DHT if it is already in DHT form!

So if you are very very concerned with hairloss, consider naturally bodybuilding without AAS, if you want to take a half-half risk then drop the winny and do the test-enanthate with finasteride...keep in mind though still no guarantees!
If you dont care at all then go all out and do the winny and enenthate.

Keep in mind hairloss is genetic and every person is completly different, so dont take other peoples experiences as an example! Some people will go fully bald in their early twenties without ever doing a cycle in their life!
Others will do many many strong cycles and not lose a hair! I know examples of both!!

I was going to answer, but after this one... no need to.
That´s the best answer you could get.

[BIG LITTLE MAN]

Thanks for the responses, didn't think I was going to get any. In regards to my BF% this was a topic of convo in my last thread when I tried Phera-Plex. Apparently after having my stats takin' electronically, my BF% came back as 27%. Im very lean throughout the shoulders, arms, upper back and chest, but my lower back and midsection are a bit soft, I have rock hard, defined abs, under the layer of fat. So I don't know if the test was way off or my picture doesn't do me any justice. Every in the last thread gave me a range of 17%-19&.

I think Ill give the Fina a try with the Test E, I really want to take Winny to help cut down, Ive heard great things about it from friends who have taken it. May be a dumb question but IF I experienced some hairloss from Winny are the effects reversable as in, once Ive finished, will my hair may thicken back up? How obvious are the effects? We all know that we see ourselves daily, and its much more diffcult for us to see changes in ourselves then for others. Is it something Ill notice or is it a slow process that Ill look over?

[BIG LITTLE MAN]

"Winstrol is a DHT derivative but doesn't convert to DHT" - from another thread, so even tho its a derivative it still has the same sideffects as if it were DHT

[hugovsilva]

If it is a dht derivate, of course it can not convert to dht, it already has dht structure. Dht related side effects are all possible with winny.