Few questions

[guest589745]

1. Are calories more important to the anabolic aspect of a steroid than to the androgenic ?

2. What effects are the anabolic and androgenic characteristics responsible for? I have a basic idea but I hope someone can get moer specific.

3. The androgenic ratio is determined by the strength to which any given steroid binds to teh androgen receptor right? How is the anabolic ratio determined then ? By the amount of nitrogen retention it causes ?

Thanks you guys.

[guest589745]

Bump.

For Hooker maybe...?

[guest589745]

Bump I guess.

[Halfcenturian]

Skull...SKULL!!!

You're crack pipe exploded! YOUR HEAD IS ON FIRE, MAN!

[guest589745]

[guest589745]

I am serious just in case anyone thought these questions were a joke or something........

[guest589745]

Quit acting like you all have something better to do on a saturday night that analyze my inqueries regarding steroids.

[ANCEPONCE]

Is it hot in here?

[guest589745]

What!?

They are questions, what the hell.......?

[Mista Massive]

it's a good question skully, but i don't think anyone knows exactly. haha

[guest589745]

I think they do actually!

we'll see......

[Mista Massive]

i'm sure they will get around to ya

[ANCEPONCE]

I'll help by keeping your thread near the top...otherwise you will get lost in the crowd...

[guest589745]

Thanks.

[SMCengineer]

I'll take a shot at number 2, although I'm not sure if this is what your looking for. It's an exert from 'Chemical Muscle Enhancement:'
"Androgenic
Male personality characteristics lke aggressiveness
Increased oil production by the skin
Thicker, more dense facial and body hair
Growth of prostate tissue
Developement of testes and sperm
Deeper voice
Icreased sex drive
Increases adrenalgenic activity
Decreased catabolic activity
Faster recuperation
Reduced fat deposits
Anabolic
Icreased Muscle Mass
Increases immune function
Male pattern fat deposits
Reduced body fat
Increased electrolyte production
Increased hemoglobin and red blood cell count
Increased calcium deposits in bones
Increased nitrogen retention
Increased protein synthesis
Decreased catabolic ratio

*These lists are not a complete list of "negative side" effects: Only distinct characteristics, and the role or function plyed by each"

Again not sure if that what your lookin for, just tryin to add to your discussion.

[guest589745]

thanks, right on actuallly! And I have that damn book!

Now for the rest.......

[guest589745]

Are the anabolic properties what is responsible for trenbolones (For exampl, though I wonder if the androgenic aspect plays a role as well) "Nutrient partitioning" ability..? Don't all anabolics have this property then ?

[stupidhippo]

i can answer some of ur question (at least partly).. first of all the whole anabolic/androgenic thing is purely an artificial division, they are not very concretic.. to my knowledge it doesnt have any correlation to the binding to the androgen receptor (i mean u cant say that the binding to the AR recpetor determines the androgenic characteristics more than th anabolic, basicly it could be so to an extent but u still cant say it IMO) Both the anabolic and androgenic properties are mediated through the AR (at east partly) and thus there prolly wont be a steroid that will be purely anabolic... unless some sort of muscle specifity can be developed... ... The anabolic androgenic ratio is artificially though of an index which is usually measured in lab-animals by measuring the increase of size of some muscle (maybe m.levator ani) and the androgenic part is measured by the effect on some part of the prostate.. it is supposed to give some sort of an estimation on how anabolic or androgenic a given compound is, but correlation with clinical practice has not been so good..

[guest589745]

thanks hippo

[guest589745]

Bump for the hell of it