weight loss

[xxxJUICExxx]

ok heres the deal......i need to drop approximately 25-35 pounds of fat like within 3-4 months....yah i need to....!!!! thats what i look like now, i have alot of muscle and i dont look to bad, but i do have alot of fat and my stomach is flabby...just around my stomach i need to drop like 15 pounds, and all around my body including face/back/legs ide say there is about 10 pounds of touch-up also that is needed....now i know my cardio and diet are imperative and probably more important than what i take, but i need to take something to increase weightloss....anyway long story short, there is side of that wants to do like over the counter weight loss crap like cyllaris or maybe lipozene, but i think im ready for something harder and more efficient. I was thinking wynstrol. I guess my 1st question is what would u guys suggest , do the OTC products or gear...? and my 2nd question is , is wynstrol alrite 2 do just by itself...? im by the way like 5'11-1/2 about 265 lbs.....22 years old bf i dunno ide say probably around 20%


*if my questions or thought seeem a little "rookie" for you guys, do me a favor and address them lightly , cuz ive read quite a bit about steroids and ive been around the gym long enough, but now that its regarding my body im a little more careful...


thanx alot in advance fellas

[perfectbeast2001]

what does your diet look like? please list with macros. If you can't then forget gear and supps and work on your diet.

[magic32]

what does your diet look like? please list with macros. If you can't then forget gear and supps and work on your diet.

Poignant.

M.

[xxxJUICExxx]

what does your diet look like? please list with macros. If you can't then forget gear and supps and work on your diet.

im currently working with a personal trainer to bring my diet up to par....so the diet and training routine i have pretty much down...

300-400g protein a day, 5-7 meals a day, pretty standard dieting....

im used to no soft drinks, no burgers no dries no pizza.....

im good with the dieting i just need 2 incorporate sumthing with my routine to speedup wightloss.....


but what do u think, as far as physically i think im ready for juice....


????????????

[lemons]

Imo if you use juice you will probably get bigger
just remember fat lays on top of muscle so if you get stronger you will almost likly get bigger juice will increase agression and youll probably lose fat working out like an animal but i think getting your bf down before you will have better chance anyway aas do not burn fat cardio and diet
and maybe throw in clen if your up for it

[xxxJUICExxx]

so your saying wynstrol will help me get bigger as opposed 2 slimming down...?
i dont understand...?


so then the diet pills will work better...?

[JohnboyF]

to be honest u cant see anything with that pic... cnau post a better one?

[MikeCman]

You said you want to lose like 15lbs from the stomach. One tip, there is no such thing as spot reduction. This means you cannot do abs and expect to just loose fat from your stomach. I see this too much of this in the gym. The only way to loose fat is proportionally throughout the entire body. Now, you might notcie certain areas becoming slimmer than others. The best thing to do is do cardio and get on a sick diet. I also would'nt use steroids to slim down? Maybe if you want to cut up, check out some of the cutting cycles posted on the forum. It just seems like your goal is set way too high.

[magic32]

ok heres the deal......i need to drop approximately 25-35 pounds of fat like within 3-4 months....yah i need to....!!!! thats what i look like now, i have alot of muscle and i dont look to bad, but i do have alot of fat and my stomach is flabby...just around my stomach i need to drop like 15 pounds, and all around my body including face/back/legs ide say there is about 10 pounds of touch-up also that is needed....now i know my cardio and diet are imperative and probably more important than what i take, but i need to take something to increase weightloss....anyway long story short, there is side of that wants to do like over the counter weight loss crap like cyllaris or maybe lipozene, but i think im ready for something harder and more efficient. I was thinking wynstrol. I guess my 1st question is what would u guys suggest , do the OTC products or gear...? and my 2nd question is , is wynstrol alrite 2 do just by itself...? im by the way like 5'11-1/2 about 265 lbs.....22 years old bf i dunno ide say probably around 20%


*if my questions or thought seeem a little "rookie" for you guys, do me a favor and address them lightly , cuz ive read quite a bit about steroids and ive been around the gym long enough, but now that its regarding my body im a little more careful...

thanx alot in advance fellas

The whole premise here is wrong, which is why Beast pointed to diet.

The loss of 25-35lbs, in any timeframe, has nothing to do with aas…Winstrol or other. They were not designed for, nor can they be adapted to such gross make-overs. Barring surgery (Bariatric or Liposuction), or the use of an injectable fat dissolvents, diet and cardio are the only ways to achieve this magnitude of fat/weight loss.

What may be of value, in the absence of any pre-existing conditions, is the employment of chems/herbs (Clen/Ephedra) in conjunction with a VLCD (Very Low Calorie Diet) and regimented cardio. These products, along with a great deal of discipline, would permit you to reach your goal in the designated time. But aas is simply not applicable here.

M.

[G-Force]

The whole premise here is wrong, which is why Beast pointed to diet.

The loss of 25-35lbs, in any timeframe, has nothing to do with aas…Winstrol or other. They were not designed for, nor can they be adapted to such gross make-overs. Barring surgery (Bariatric or Liposuction), or the use of an injectable fat dissolvents, diet and cardio are the only ways to achieve this magnitude of fat/weight loss.

What may be of value, in the absence of any pre-existing conditions, is the employment of chems/herbs (Clen/Ephedra) in conjunction with a VLCD (Very Low Calorie Diet) and regimented cardio. These products, along with a great deal of discipline, would permit you to reach your goal in the designated time. But aas is simply not applicable here.

M.

what makes u think steroids arent applicable here
he has already said he has been working on diet and training

it isnt clear from what he has said how long he has been bodybuiling for and what his experiences are so lets not jump in and advise him against without knowing all the facts

he couldve been dieting for years with no success for all you know??

hell we all cycle? so why cant he?

winny doesnt burn fat by the way

anavar does (in particular a**ominal fat and VAT - Visceral Adipose Tissue)

[SHAGGY]

Sorry to say this, but I do not think there is any aas that actively burns fat in any particular region, wether it be visceral or subcutaneous.
But that is besides the point, I agree with you that we cannot in any way deduct the amount of time spent in the gym or the time put in diet by the thread starter, but the tone of the message seems to be that the thread starter wishes to use aas as a way of losing fat, the only thing other people have pointed out is that aas are not extremely suitable or designed for this purpose, although I do believe they can help. Also the people that have answered have not told you that you must do something, they have merely given there opinion, which I think you asked.

All in all I would also recommend to simply redevise your nutrition plan and use some OTC ancillaries to help you lose the fat a bit faster. Some would even argue to keep the OTC for later if you metabolism should slow down because of diet, yet I don't see any harm in using them now allready.

Hope we helped and I am sure some more knowledgeable people then me will help you "fix" a new workout plan and nutrition plan.
We are all here to help, hope we will be able to.


To the thread starter, please do not think that we in any way are judging you, far from it, we are merely trying to help you to the best of our abilities and insights.

SHAGGY

edit; spelling

[G-Force]

Sorry to say this, but I do not think there is any aas that actively burns fat in any particular region, wether it be visceral or subcutaneous.But that is besides the point, I agree with you that we cannot in any way deduct the amount of time spent in the gym or the time put in diet by the thread starter, but the tone of the message seems to be that the thread starter wishes to use aas as a way of losing fat, the only thing other people have pointed out is that aas are not extremely suitable or designed for this purpose, although I do believe they can help. Also the people that have answered have not told you that you must do something, they have merely given there opinion, which I think you asked.

All in all I would also recommend to simply redevise your nutrition plan and use some OTC ancillaries to help you lose the fat a bit faster. Some would even argue to keep the OTC for later if you metabolism should slow down because of diet, yet I don't see any harm in using them now allready.

Hope we helped and I am sure some more knowledgeable people then me will help you "fix" a new workout plan and nutrition plan.
We are all here to help, hope we will be able to.


To the thread starter, please do not think that we in any way are judging you, far from it, we are merely trying to help you to the best of our abilities and insights.

SHAGGY

edit; spelling

so your telling me tren and anavar dont burn fat lol


do some reading brother

[SHAGGY]

I did not say that. I merely stated that they do not actively burn fat in any specific region(spot reduction). Also I stated that they where not designed for this purpose. I do believe in the abilitity that tren aids fat loss, anavar has less or none of that ability maybe this would be more obvious in people with a low bodyfat percentage.
None the less I do not think that it is a good idea in this case.

Hope I explained.

SHAGGY

Bold = my opinion ofcourse, by the way I do alot of reading

[G-Force]

I did not say that. I merely stated that they do not actively burn fat in any specific region(spot reduction). Also I stated that they where not designed for this purpose. I do believe in the abilitity that tren aids fat loss, anavar has less or none of that ability maybe this would be more obvious in people with a low bodyfat percentage.
None the less I do not think that it is a good idea in this case.

Hope I explained.

SHAGGY

Bold = my opinion ofcourse, by the way I do alot of reading

this is taken from http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199816
i couldnt copy and past the graphs but use that link and u can see for yourself


for anyone interested primarily in the fat burning properties of this stuff: Anavar may be what we’d call a “fat-burning steroid”. A**ominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used anavar (4). In another study, appendicular, total, and trunk fat were all reduced with a relatively small dose of 20mgs/day (8), and no excercise. In addition, weight gained with ‘var may be nearly permanent too. It might not be much, but you’ll stand a good chance of keeping most of it. In one study, subjects maintained their weight (re)gains from anavar for at least 6 months after cessation (2)! Concomitantly, in another study, Twelve weeks after discontinuing oxandrolone, 83% of the reductions in total, trunk, and extremity fat were also sustained (8)! If you’re regaining weight, Anavar will give you nearly permanent gains, and if you are trying to lose fat (and you keep your diet in check), the fat lost with Anavar is basically looks to be nearly permanent. Check this chart out:


Absolute change in total fat mass (A) and trunk fat (B) by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry from baseline to study week 12 (solid bars) and from baseline to study week 24 (open bars) in the placebo (n = 12) and the oxandrolone (n = 20) study groups. Values are means ± SE. *Significant decrease from baseline, P < 0.001. Significant difference between study groups for change in fat mass from 0 to 12 wk, P < 0.001. (15)(8)

[SHAGGY]

Thanks for the link, but I have read the profiles before and find them somewhat lacking in real life emperical evidence, none the less some of the best profiles out their.
Again, I think/believe that anavars effects on fat burning are if at all present minimal. And I think/believe that anavar or any substance for that matter is not or very restricted in spot fat reduction. According to the graphs(don't have time to read entire study) the weight loss could be averaged to 1,5 kg's total weight in 12 weeks time, seems to me that that weight loss could be attributed to a whole host of other factors. Do try to remember that the people in the studies had lower then average testosterone levels.

Again this is besides the point and is starting to clutter this thread; I believe/think that it is not usefull or advised in the thread starters case.

Again all information ever stated in any of my posts is off course my opinion and should not be interpreted as factual by anyone. My opinion is not wrong but neither is yours, it is exactly that, an opinion clouded by our subjective minds. I believe = my opinion.

You or any one else are offcourse fully entitled to dismiss my opinion as false according to your beliefs and thoughts.

In conclusion; Doesn't seem like a good idea to use AAS yet for the thread starter and everyone is entitled to their opinion and I hope they can live with mine.

Hope I clarified my stance on the subject and I hope the thread starter reaches his goals.

SHAGGY

[magic32]

what makes u think steroids arent applicable here
he has already said he has been working on diet and training

I'd think the 25-35 POUNDS he's looking to lose makes this answer obvious.

it isnt clear from what he has said how long he has been bodybuiling for and what his experiences are so lets not jump in and advise him against without knowing all the facts he couldve been dieting for years with no success for all you know??

I'm not jumping, if he's been working out a long time then his diet and cardio need tweaking, if it's a short time then he needs to keep plugging away before using.

Furthermore, anyone who would recommend anabolic steroids to someone desirous of losing 25-35lbs should do some reading. Here's a start:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ds+lose+weight

M.

[Jefferey]

To keep this simple, B/F loss is a result of proper nutrition and cardio and not what drugs you can take. All any OTC meds will do for you is help surpress appitite. There are no magic pills to help spot reduce here or there...You need to take in less cal's then you then you expend per day...all weight loss will be from all over the body.

[G-Force]

I'd think the 25-35 POUNDS he's looking to lose makes this answer obvious.

I'm not jumping, if he's been working out a long time then his diet and cardio need tweaking, if it's a short time then he needs to keep plugging away before using.

Furthermore, anyone who would recommend anabolic steroids to someone desirous of losing 25-35lbs should do some reading. Here's a start:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ds+lose+weight

M.

not necessarily

he couldve been 50lbs over weight to start with and has already dieted down 25lbs or so

my point is we dont know enough to simply state steroids are not right for him

[magic32]

not necessarily

he couldve been 50lbs over weight to start with and has already dieted down 25lbs or so

my point is we dont know enough to simply state steroids are not right for him

This is quite true.
However, did you see the picture? They're supposed to be worth a thousand words and it’s true in this case as well.

Again anyone looking to lose 25-35lbs, even if they're anorexic and already at 90lbs, steroids are not what they need. Admittedly not the best example, as a 90-pounder would need it to gain weight , but I digress because it drives home the idea.

Also, did you read the just one of many threads above to this effect?

M.

[xxxJUICExxx]

alrioght the facts are that likea year ago i wouldnt have even posted mypicup cuz i was a totall slob...i have actually reached a point where i believe my body has actually playeaud and i need my 2nd hardcore training period (which is usually 6-8 months) to finalize every last bit of fat that i have left. When i train i usually do it relentlessly like 4-6 timesa week and i diet pretty clean....I have been training and lifting for quite a while but have serioiusly drooped like 40 lbs altogether but i have gained a tremendous amount of muscle...I would say i have probably dropped like a good 8% body fat and like 6 sizes in my waist. Now i know my frame is in the condition ready for sometype of outside influience to increase my weightloss. My muscles are big and healthy enough to handle AAS. I have been totally natural up to this point but i feel i need something to gimme that edge back. Im not interested in losing weight in one spot as i have clearly mentioned, but i did mention that my stmach is the area which is the most targetable. Ive seen this hydroxycut and cyllaris crap on tv all the time and i think with dieting and exercise i dont see a reason why those OTC's shouldnt work. But since this is a website dedicated 2 Juicing i wanted to know if its ok for me to do sum AAS with intentions of dropping approximately 25 lbs thats all. Last thing i wanna do is stirup some bullshit im just really confused.


AND BTW i think ( i dunno but maybe im wrong) by that pic isnt it obvious that i know my way around the gym...?

[SHAGGY]

The pic is a bit blurry but it is indeed visible that you work out. Nonetheless most people on this board will say something you won't like to hear; Best to not use aas yet, not because it won't work or because it is extremely unhealthy, no, moreso because most people on this board view it as a method to perfect your body when it is near to what you want it to be, again that is just their viewpoint. But you should know that steroids have a list of unwanted side effects that are in my eyes at least more dangerous for people with a higher fat percentage than those with a low fat percentage.
An example of a side effect is strongely altered Cholesterol levels, which can lead to atherosclerosis, which in turn can put you at risk of a heart attack or a seizure.
I am not saying that using AAS will lead to this, but lets not forget, dispite it being widely used in our society does not change the fact that it is a strong substance that does influence your body significantly.
You could use it and probably book some succes with it, but it is advised to not use them yet, until you understand completely what it is your body reacts to best on levels of nutrition, workout and rest, tis way you will also get much more out of your AAS then if you where to start it right now.

The choice is entirely up to you but you have heard most of our opinions, some of the people that have given you advice where once very obese(not that you are now, but jsut stating it so you would know) and got the weight of naturely before they started using AAS, these same people advise you not to do it yet. Think about it.

My advice would be, dedicate the next year or two to getting all the fat off that you possibly can and meanwhile ask advice and read and learn everything you can about AAS, this way by the time you can began a cycle you will allready have a perfect one planned out.

Hope I helped, and I apologize for cluttering up your thread a bit.
If you want to ask anything else, feel free to do so, we are all willing to help evnthough we will not always say what you want to hear.

SHAGGY

[Booz]

personally IMO i would leave steroids alone and concentrate on your diet and cardio for a while,IMO i would try and lose the weight 1st then hit the gear.....
if you want to take something to aid in the weight loss why not look into a cycle of clen/t4/t3?

[Booz]

i am one that does advocate a lower body fat percentage before gear usage tho its not a rule set in stone,thats just me..............

[xxxJUICExxx]

ok so clen and t3 are pretty much the two methods that would be concidered to aid wightloss in the AAS world...clen is just tweek personally ive tried it a while back i hated it....but i think ima try some adipex or lipozene and see what happens....


anybody have any experience with any of these diet pills...?
adipex
lipozene
cyllaris

anything???????????????????

thanx guys i appreciate it, yah i think unless my bf is under 10% i wont **** with any juice....

[SHAGGY]

Wise decision.

Don't have any experience with the compounds you have named. Are they OTC?? If yes, you might want to look in the supplements forum and if you don't find anything start a new thread about it.

What you are looking for in an OTC fat burner is mostly an ECA stack.

SHAGGY

[magic32]

personally IMO i would leave steroids alone and concentrate on your diet and cardio for a while,IMO i would try and lose the weight 1st then hit the gear.....
if you want to take something to aid in the weight loss why not look into a cycle of clen/t4/t3?

Exactly as I stated several posts ago, and it's not a hard and fast rule, but it makes everything easier and more beneficial. I hope GFORCE sees this post.

Best to you Juice,

M.

[djack99587]

dnp?

[SHAGGY]

Don't be jumping on the DNP bandwagon yet. Try to stay away from DNP as long as you can, it can be done realtively safely, but should be avoided if possible. If you do decide to use it, research it for atleast a few months, really, it is not wise to mess around(unresponsible use) with DNP.

Stick with cardio, diet and if truly necessary Clen/T4/T3 and OTC supplements.

Wish you the best.

SHAGGY

[xxxJUICExxx]

whats DNP...?


anybody have any ideas or advice on an ECA stack...?

[kynetguy]

[QUOTE=xxxJUICExxx]ok so clen and t3 are pretty much the two methods that would be concidered to aid wightloss in the AAS world...clen is just tweek personally ive tried it a while back i hated it....but i think ima try some adipex or lipozene and see what happens....


anybody have any experience with any of these diet pills...?
adipex
lipozene
cyllaris

QUOTE]

I have used Phentermine/adipex before. Its a great appetite suppresant and is also an amphetamine. Its available through prescription. If you do a search for either (same drug) you can find online pharmacies that will actually write you a script and send it to you after a basic medical profiling. Most places will require you to have a BMI of 30 or higher. Which, I would say most anyone here on juice would have that, even at like 10% BF because BMI, unfortunately, does not account for BF. Its based on height and weight and standard weight charts. You can be 5'10 and weight 220 and have a BMI of about 31. . .whether you are 10%BF or 20%.

Adipex/Phentermine has little sides. It actually enhanced my mood and made me more alert, but not jittery or nervous. I would definately recommend it over Clen personally. I too did not like clen. I found it to have many sides for me and little results.

Prices for Adipex are going to be higher than phentermine as Adipex is a brand name. (Adipex, Fastin are two brand names for phentermine class of drugs. For 90 pills prices on online pharmacies are going to be anywhere between $40-$130. Read the fine print, there are a lot of online pharmacies that will bill you for a membership fee of $20.95 per month for 5 months. So that $40 bargin works out to be the same or more as other places.

And don't bus my balls for listing prices. Since these aren't steroids and are prescription drugs, I don't see pricing as being appicable as a rules violation. :-)

[magic32]

whats DNP...?


anybody have any ideas or advice on an ECA stack...?

Run some searches, but like Shaggy said, don't even worry about DNP.

If you don't have any heart problems or insulin issues, the ECA stack should be both safe and effective. Start with a half or third of a serving, and increase slowly. It will allow you to workout harder, longer and thus, better. But like all supplements, you'll still have to dedicate yourself to diet and training, it's not magical.

M.

[spywizard]

the key to losing that fat, is changing how you work out as well, i do high rep 4 sets 20 reps yes it hurts..

recovery can be a mess, but i get shredded..

if caloric deficiet, i run meridia and clen to keep from going catabolic, and var/tbol is the shit, did just what you state you wanted to do..

good luck..

[xxxJUICExxx]

kool thanx felllas.....i have heard sum good stuff about adipex....

but habout like lipozene its supposedly some type of medical liposuction in a pill form.......what do u guys think about that?

[xxxJUICExxx]

[QUOTE=kynetguy]

ok so clen and t3 are pretty much the two methods that would be concidered to aid wightloss in the AAS world...clen is just tweek personally ive tried it a while back i hated it....but i think ima try some adipex or lipozene and see what happens....


anybody have any experience with any of these diet pills...?
adipex
lipozene
cyllaris

QUOTE]

I have used Phentermine/adipex before. Its a great appetite suppresant and is also an amphetamine. Its available through prescription. If you do a search for either (same drug) you can find online pharmacies that will actually write you a script and send it to you after a basic medical profiling. Most places will require you to have a BMI of 30 or higher. Which, I would say most anyone here on juice would have that, even at like 10% BF because BMI, unfortunately, does not account for BF. Its based on height and weight and standard weight charts. You can be 5'10 and weight 220 and have a BMI of about 31. . .whether you are 10%BF or 20%.

Adipex/Phentermine has little sides. It actually enhanced my mood and made me more alert, but not jittery or nervous. I would definately recommend it over Clen personally. I too did not like clen. I found it to have many sides for me and little results.

Prices for Adipex are going to be higher than phentermine as Adipex is a brand name. (Adipex, Fastin are two brand names for phentermine class of drugs. For 90 pills prices on online pharmacies are going to be anywhere between $40-$130. Read the fine print, there are a lot of online pharmacies that will bill you for a membership fee of $20.95 per month for 5 months. So that $40 bargin works out to be the same or more as other places.

And don't bus my balls for listing prices. Since these aren't steroids and are prescription drugs, I don't see pricing as being appicable as a rules violation. :-)

what kinda results did u get...?

can u post some stats...?

and maybe even your diet (roughly)...?

[xxxJUICExxx]

[QUOTE=kynetguy]

ok so clen and t3 are pretty much the two methods that would be concidered to aid wightloss in the AAS world...clen is just tweek personally ive tried it a while back i hated it....but i think ima try some adipex or lipozene and see what happens....


anybody have any experience with any of these diet pills...?
adipex
lipozene
cyllaris

QUOTE]

I have used Phentermine/adipex before. Its a great appetite suppresant and is also an amphetamine. Its available through prescription. If you do a search for either (same drug) you can find online pharmacies that will actually write you a script and send it to you after a basic medical profiling. Most places will require you to have a BMI of 30 or higher. Which, I would say most anyone here on juice would have that, even at like 10% BF because BMI, unfortunately, does not account for BF. Its based on height and weight and standard weight charts. You can be 5'10 and weight 220 and have a BMI of about 31. . .whether you are 10%BF or 20%.

Adipex/Phentermine has little sides. It actually enhanced my mood and made me more alert, but not jittery or nervous. I would definately recommend it over Clen personally. I too did not like clen. I found it to have many sides for me and little results.

Prices for Adipex are going to be higher than phentermine as Adipex is a brand name. (Adipex, Fastin are two brand names for phentermine class of drugs. For 90 pills prices on online pharmacies are going to be anywhere between $40-$130. Read the fine print, there are a lot of online pharmacies that will bill you for a membership fee of $20.95 per month for 5 months. So that $40 bargin works out to be the same or more as other places.

And don't bus my balls for listing prices. Since these aren't steroids and are prescription drugs, I don't see pricing as being appicable as a rules violation. :-)

what kinda results did u get...?

can u post some stats...?

and maybe even your diet (roughly)...?

[xxxJUICExxx]

???????????

[charlesclemens]

I am not spammer. I like to join this forum last post was my first post.

[charlesclemens]

Its better diet program one of my friend who is doctor giving me these simple diet and ask not to use any medicine for diet its good for you all.

Hi,

I've calculated out your requirements after what we said earlier in the weight loss society thread.

Based on your weight and helight your obviously very obese. Your BMI which shows your weight to height ratio is 44. normally a healthy weight would be 20-25 - however this doesn't mean you have to aim straight away to get your weight intop that region. You best to set yourself small realistic goals - e.g. To lose 10 pounds in 6 weeks. And f you achieve that to lose another 10 pounds in another 6 weeks. Smaller goals helps you keep focussed.

In terms of requirements I estimate, but a small deduction for weigh loss, that you should be eating around 2200 Kcals. Obviously this is difficult to monitor if your not someone who is liekly to be able to add up all the calories you've eaten.

A simple diet plan, based onr equirements is now been used in the UK. Its based on allowing yourself so many portions from each food group each day. Based on your calorie requirement, you would be allowed:

* 9 Portions of carbohydrate/starchy foods
* 9 portions of fruit and/or vegetables
* 4 portions of dairy foods
* 3 portions of protein foods
* 3 portions of fat spreads or oils
* 280 additional Kcal, for treat.



For some foods a portion is probably half, or less of what you would eat , so in that instance a portion may actually be 3 of your allowance, so look at that carefully.

You might find it easier to plan out your food for the day, to find out where best to incorporate the allowances.

Hope this makes sense,

The weight loss will be promoted by a little exercise, even just a walk round the block if you can manage it.

Any questions just ask,

[charlesclemens]

I suggest this diet for me its really good feels me after my breakfast.

[kynetguy]

I suggest this diet for me its really good feels me after my breakfast.

And anything that fels you after breakfast has to be good. I know the wife certainly wont.

Sorry, I couldnt resist.