im not getting upset just dont understand why no one can give me astraight answer i just ordered a bunch of the 5ml sachets and came accross a web site that has the 20 ml ones that are much cheaper. im sure everyone else would like to pay less for legit gear. thats all im getting at. just an honest answer. all iwant to know is is there legit 20ml sachets going around or are the 5ml the only ones that are real. thats all. maybe i can get that source check down the road when i build up my posts.