I also started another thread sort of the same abou tren..(am doing a winny only cycle but thinking of maybe adding a litle EQ or Tren)...Any preferences on which way to go ??..
Thanks guys
I also started another thread sort of the same abou tren..(am doing a winny only cycle but thinking of maybe adding a litle EQ or Tren)...Any preferences on which way to go ??..
Thanks guys
If your gonna do Tren you have to have Test along with it. Eq is pretty good for bulking, also gets you quite vascular, but what i noticed about Eq that I liked a lot was that since it greatly increases your Red Blood Cell count your basically never out of breath after an excercise.
eq has no value. you will not bulk from eq. stats,age and cycle history
you can bulk and cut on virtually anything,but eq whilst i love the drug is a very weak compound compared to others............
i wouldnt use it for bulking IMO............
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as booz has said its not the perfect choice for bulking the only advantage with it is that it makes the one hungry
Bro,you said you were using winny and looking to add....what are your goals???...previous cycle experience???
Your first cycle should be test not winny. You will not bulk off of winny. Tren is for experienced users.
Originally Posted by mkrulic
EQ is actually the best appetite increasing drug and good for bulking with other compounds in the mix as well. Seems like the parrots are all over lately...
[" that since it greatly increases your Red Blood Cell count your basically never out of breath after an excercise.[/QUOTE]
Actually it is exactly the opposite..
Ive ran eq at 600mg/week for 10 - 12 weeks. and I can tell you, from personal experience, that eq has no value. and the whole,"actually the best appetite increasing drug", is actually parroted a lot. btw, this is a horrible reason to take aas. may I suggest salt, pepper and other spices?Originally Posted by Angel of death
You think youre so clever w/ this parrot stuff. It is just ignorant. as an example, everything in mathematics is parroted. no one would ever excuse anyone of parroting math. your either right or wrong. eq is not going to help you bulk. that is a correct statment.
may I suggest checking out the most overated thread. I think its still at the top or close to. eq is no. 1 the last time I checked. oops, this is parroting, whatever. If its said by thousands there must be some truth to it.
EQ does everyone different. EQ does wonders for me you just have to try and see how EQ reacts to you. Nobody's going to have the same reactions to everything.
check out this thread:Originally Posted by jdm95lude
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=285986
eq is the number one most overated steriod. yes it might work wonders for you but you would def be in the minority
Its over rated by one, they all have votes for being over rate because everyones body is different. Im not trying to argue with you or start a fight all I was saying is that everyone is different so some compounds work different for everyone. Thats all.
everyone is different, true. but if more people reacted favorably to eq then it wouldnt have gotten more votes then all the others. to assume this person will be in the minority of those who really see benifits is unlikely. if it were likely more people would react favorably.Originally Posted by jdm95lude
Yeah I understand. All Im saying is if he's wanting to try it out then go ahead and try it out. He won't get huge by no means.
thats true. thats how I had to figure it wasnt for me.Originally Posted by jdm95lude
I love eq… works well for me.
I’m on bold suspension now… one of the best compounds I’ve used.. forget the long ester
Test + deca is ok… test + deca + bold = awesome
Actually it is exactly the opposite..[/QUOTE]Originally Posted by getpaid
He was talking about EQ not tren...
to answer the initial ? eq works for some but overall isnt the best for adding mass.
bingo.Originally Posted by passthetest
last i checked an increased RBC causes u to be tired/slugish.......Originally Posted by dece870717
Very True!!!Originally Posted by Haro3
He was talking about EQ not tren...[/QUOTE]Originally Posted by Dog-Slime
No..He was talking about EQ!!!!
Go back and read it again
I was talking about EQ and EQ does stimulates the release of erythropoietin in the kidneys thus making more RBC. And if you ever heard of blood doping, athletes would do it to increase there RBC making there body carry more oxygen which will give you more endurance because your muscles will be more oxygenated and lactic acid will not build up easily. I found that I was basically never out of breath on my Test E and EQ cycle.
You are right about it increasing you RBC count but you are very wrong about it giving you more energy and "basically never out of breath" I dont even want to argue about this because i know I 'm right..Why dont you research the other 10,000 EQ threads, after you read them you can come back and tell me Im rightOriginally Posted by dece870717
There are plenty of studies that directly show EQ is not useless - unless you consider a massive increase in protein synthesis, appetite boost, etc useless.
It is not a bulking compound, it is best used as support for heavy bulkers like Test E, nandrolone, dbol to create a quality cycle. I personally like EQ, and There is certainly info to support its effectiveness.
From my experience EQ is top notch for helping make quality lean gains - but it is my no means a standalone compound (it is ridiculous actually as a standalone since it will shut down natural test production)
I don't want to argue with you either but look up blood doping. "Blood doping is the practice of illicitly boosting the number of red blood cells (RBCs) in the circulation in order to enhance athletic performance. Because they carry oxygen from the lungs to the muscles, more RBCs in the blood can improve an athlete’s aerobic capacity and stamina." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_doping and if you don't like wikipedia go look it up somewhere else but there going to tell you the same thing.
I don't need to look up EQ topics because I've taken it and I did not have any tiredness or fatigue that was associated with it. Heck I never even had an increase in appetite from EQ either. All I know is that I was generally never out of breath after any excercise on that cycle.
Umm, by a factor of one vote? Obviously that poll is not the bible of steroid effectiveness... 4 people rated test as the most overrated AS, how does that make sense?Originally Posted by mkrulic
Also I would like to add, tiredness from EQ is usually found in people that do not use Test in their cycle. EQ lowers your natural test, low test levels are going to make you tired.
Interesting thread, just picked up a pile of EQ and have every intention in using it is the very near future. I'll let you all know how it goes
I hope you have a pile of test to go along with it As brought up in this thread, EQ will shut down natural test production, which needs to be replaced by the synthetic stuff for an effective cycle.Originally Posted by Kristopher22
Doesnt matter how close second was. the fact that the majority of people find it over rated means that it dosnt meet expectations for the majority. If second place was 15 votes off it dosnt change the fact taht it dosnt meet expectations for the majority.Originally Posted by deadliftin00
Increasing rbc count is not unique. anything you would take would probably do just taht. I think you would find it hard to find a steroid that dosent do that.
Bottom line, increase in vascularity and appetite is a poor reason to take aas, imho. and this is all you could hope for w/ eq
Originally Posted by mkrulic
Now you really need to stop talking. Just because you had an awful EQ cycle probably means you have pisspoor genetics. Sucks man. Move on.
5,000mg of foodadrol will do it.
An increase from a normal RBC count will give you endurance. Eq can help you achieve this, but there are parameters and limits. What your talking about is excess RBC count which will make you slugish & tired and increase your B.P. Most users get this with doses of 600mg ew. To rectify they give blood then feel invincable again.Originally Posted by getpaid
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That’s a ridicules statement… eq will definitely add mass over time.Originally Posted by mkrulic
if Boldenol ( eq ) would be enanthanate ..I'd hit hit!!
bet your ass mkrulic that you didnt use it long enough.
the ester needs what, 8 weeks to peak, and what.. lets say another 8 weeks at the maximum peak, so.. 16 week worth of EQ would be sufficient.
all imo.. but your bashing the ester.
I'm on EQ right now and I have used it before. Some of my buddies like, and some don't. I do like it. I think the guy earlier said it works different for everybody, and that is true, just like every other drug out there. People react different. What I love about EQ is the vascularity and the appitite increase. I would do Test, Deca, and EQ. OR Test, Tren, and EQ. I think you will be very pleased.
yea Im the only one who was dissapointed. thats why it was number one on the most overated list. or do a search and find how many say all you can expect is the things Ive mentioned too many times. your a child. you argue like a child. stop quoting me.Originally Posted by Angel of death
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