Help with expected tren results?? Not sure about the dosage or cycling?? help would be much appreciated
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Help with expected tren results?? Not sure about the dosage or cycling?? help would be much appreciated
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Age? Cycle experience? Other stats please.
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20....football player second cycle...did a cycle of win...curently on jintropin...thinking about puttin that tren with var and some more win
6'4
230
365 bench
550 squat
345 clean
4.5 40 yd
34 in vert
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My opinion is you are too young to be toying with this stuff. Stay away from tren dude it is for the more experienced. You are on aas right now and will probably continue no matter what people tell you but trust me dont do tren right now. Do you know about PCT?
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yea i was thinkin clomid or nolva maybe both?? tren is whack??
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Tren is a nandrolone derivative, and like all nandrolones, it will shut you down hard (more quickly then say test, although this is to a degree dose dependant). For example based on a study, a single 100mg shot of deca(nandrolone) will shut you down completely. I believe that information is in this site's steroid profile for deca. The ramification of this is that pct needs to be more aggressive (more then nolva or clomid for optimal recovery).
In truth though I must agree Kaberle_15 you are to young for AAS. Why you ask? because your body is still producing a lot of hormones at your age. The endocrine system is very integrated and complex. You could offset a lot of future natural development.
I would recommend thinking about IGF and MGF if you feel you need to add 'supplements' to stay competitive. The gains are not anywhere as quick as with AAS but it would work better then the HGH at a lower cost. As far as I know these are not yet tested for in the standard AAS screenings. The gains like I said are slower but you could stay on longer and there isn't the worry about post cycle loss. I have AAS and HGH experience but little IGF/mgf experience(it has helped me with improving body composition during pct). A lot of what I'm saying about the peptides is based on reading. I'm trying them myself now, in a protocol outlined by s101 otherwise known as grunt76. Anthony Roberts also as good protocol outlined on this site somewhere. There are some differences in what they suggest, so I experiment with one and then the other.
b cool,
Jagdpanther
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k well id just love to know what kind of gains i can expect from this cycle and how fast they will come
75mg EOD tren
100 MG win eod
75mg VAR eod
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with a 3-3-4 monday wed fri of jintropin
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Here's a stack. Tren 75 mg eod and test prop 100 mg eod. Keep using the var. Tren is pretty advanced gear, but if you are hell bent on using it , remember that you ALWAYS have to combine it with some kind of test to avoid tren dick. I don't recommend you do this, but I hate when guys just tell you no and don't give you any advice. good luck, mate.
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so test prop is a must huh??? the good news continues....def do not have any nor do i think i have acess to it...what i have is not gonna do the trick??
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Hey bro,The cycle is not good bro....maybe if you were more experienced you may get way with it but you're shutting down your endogenous test...meaning NO woodie!!!...The prop will help keep you out of that trouble...Dont get me wrong tren is NOT whack as you put it...its a very good compound but with it comes sides...The var will be good...you're on JIn now???...how much and how long??
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jin for like 6and a half weeks...doin great on it with win...i just wanna add some var and tren to my jin/win cycle...maybe get a lil bigger with some more definition and hardness...i really want help in my explossive athletic movement which ive been gettin...but would love a lil more with some summer cutness...lol football player lookin to get big strong and fast but look good on the boat for summer time....the woodie...dude my girl friend is hot as balls...im sure that will never be a problem....also shes across the country all yr but the summer...so again not an issue...id like to keep the testosterone in me n e ways
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10 ui's a week..****in love it
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I'll repeat what the others have said because it is very true, test with any nandrolone is a must if you wishh to be able to get wood or even get turned on for that matter.
As a side note a lot of newer people ask how much can I expect to gain from this cycle? This is a really bad question that no one can truthfully answer. There are to many variables involved - diet, training, where are you compared to your natural limit. What can be answered is that the cycle you propose looks like a cutter/ lean gainer (not that I recomend the cycle as outlined in your post above). The drugs you chose look like they would be well suited to improving ones power to weight ratio.
Get a hold of some test if your hell bent. You didn't mention cycle length either. If you plan on being on 2months or longer I would run hcg during the cycle to keep my balls from shrinking. I would also run itin the first two weeks of pct. There are sufficient protocols for hcg and pct out there so I won't gointo detail.
Edit -I just saw your additional posts - readup on deca dick and tren dick.
Not fun to explain to a lady friend. Does wonders for your self confidence.
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Last edited by jagdpanther; 03-05-2007 at 10:13 PM.
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Originally Posted by Footballer2
yeah take winny var and tren with no test and your 'woodie' will not be so wood like..lol
this is a nice lean body mass cycle, with GH would be an awesome lean body mass, but honestly i dont think your GH dose is high enough especially for your age..i would keep slowly bumping it up to like 4iu min. 5 days a week for at least 6 months.
1-6 or 8 prop 100mg every other day
1-6 or 8 tren 100mg every other day
1-6 or 8 winny 50mg every day
you said a few posts back that you dont think you have acess to test? but you have acess to tren, winny, var, and growth?
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Oh boy Oh boy, remember those words when your "hot as balls" girlfriend is laying in bed naked, reading Cosmo and thinking about calling her ex-boyfriend, while you are sitting on the edge of the bed wanking, talking to, threatening, doing WHATEVER YOU CAN to your little warrior and it just hangs there limp as a frigging noodle and then tell me that TREN DICK IS NOT A REAL PROBLEM!! USE THE TEST AND AVOID THIS DREADED SCENARIO!!! This is my good deed for the day. Trust me, mate.
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First off bro, the stats you gave look pretty damn good for 20 years old. Lay off the juice for a few more years if you can. I can't be a hipocrite because I ran a winny only cycle when I was 21 and got nothing out of it. But now I am at 25 yrs old and have ran 2 cycles with unbelievable results! Save ur body.
Second, you can get gh but not Test? Try hard and get the test to run with tren and winny. Otherwise, just hold on to your stuff or sell it and wait until you can readily get test. Tren dick is real.
Third, good luck to you in whatever you decide. I assume you are a football player too. Watch out cause tren can stay in the system for up to 5 months depending on ester.
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