Quote Originally Posted by Jefferey
Right 2 orals make a perfect cycle...Looks like you need as much research as the poster. Sorry but that was bad advice...Know your anabolics before posting an answer please.

To the original poster..Please list your stats so we can help you

Age
Weight
Height
How long you've been training
B/F if known

Why the Var..Are you somewhat overweight and need to shed some poundage?
He said he wanted to stay away from test, so I assumed he didn't want to poke. And, from what I've read here, Tbol + Var is quite popular for getting a few pounds of lean mass and cutting.