I HAD GASTRIC BYPASS ALMSOT ONE YEAR AGO THIS APRIL 10th

[GASTRICBYPASSGUY]

Hello everyone...My name is Robert. I am 26 yrs old. Pasadena california. On April 10th next month will be my 1YR out from getting GASTRIC BYPASS SURGURY. I cheated...lol...Anyways...I am down from 350 to 220 now...I want to really start lifting/exercising.I just recently got the CAPTIN OF CRUSH #2 it has been almost 2 weeks and I can almosssst close it.I took these pictures on 3.5.07 and I have been running since then with my wife 1/2 mile every day. This coming up week I will raise the bar to 3/4 of a mile. And every week after rasie a 1/4.until I get to 4 miles. My goal!!! To bench press 400lbs just once without a the shirt. I want to do 1 dead hang chin up weighted with 100lbs. I want to complete this!!! But need some directions to get there. Do I take test or decca hyw? How can I develope huge massive ARMS?!?!?!?I would really appreciate some help and advice of the willing. I will be someones TEST SUBJECT on a routine all you have to do is talk to me. I am VERY DEDICATED in getting to my GOAL!!! I just really need a flashlight to get there!!!!!!Thank you for spending your time reading this, it is more appreiciated then you know...

Robert-
Pasadena, California
3.15.07 / 1:25AM

Hello everyone...My name is Robert. I am 26 yrs old. Pasadena california. On April 10th next month will be my 1YR out from getting GASTRIC BYPASS SURGURY. I cheated...lol...Anyways...I am down from 350 to 220 now...I want to really start lifting/exercising.I just recently got the CAPTIN OF CRUSH #2 it has been almost 2 weeks and I can almosssst close it.I took these pictures on 3.5.07 and I have been running since then with my wife 1/2 mile every day. This coming up week I will raise the bar to 3/4 of a mile. And every week after rasie a 1/4.until I get to 4 miles. My goal!!! To bench press 400lbs just once without a the shirt. I want to do 1 dead hang chin up weighted with 100lbs. I want to complete this!!! But need some directions to get there. Do I take test or decca hyw? How can I develope huge massive ARMS?!?!?!?I would really appreciate some help and advice of the willing. I will be someones TEST SUBJECT on a routine all you have to do is talk to me. I am VERY DEDICATED in getting to my GOAL!!! I just really need a flashlight to get there!!!!!!Thank you for spending your time reading this, it is more appreiciated then you know...

Robert-
Pasadena, California
3.15.07 / 1:40AM

Hello everyone...My name is Robert. I am 26 yrs old. Pasadena california. On April 10th next month will be my 1YR out from getting GASTRIC BYPASS SURGURY. I cheated...lol...Anyways...I am down from 350 to 220 now...I want to really start lifting/exercising.I just recently got the CAPTIN OF CRUSH #2 it has been almost 2 weeks and I can almosssst close it.I took these pictures on 3.5.07 and I have been running since then with my wife 1/2 mile every day. This coming up week I will raise the bar to 3/4 of a mile. And every week after rasie a 1/4.until I get to 4 miles. My goal!!! To bench press 400lbs just once without a the shirt. I want to do 1 dead hang chin up weighted with 100lbs. I want to complete this!!! But need some directions to get there. Do I take test or decca hyw? How can I develope huge massive ARMS?!?!?!?I would really appreciate some help and advice of the willing. I will be someones TEST SUBJECT on a routine all you have to do is talk to me. I am VERY DEDICATED in getting to my GOAL!!! I just really need a flashlight to get there!!!!!!Thank you for spending your time reading this, it is more appreiciated then you know...

Robert-
Pasadena, California
3.15.07 / 1:45AM

Hello everyone...My name is Robert. I am 26 yrs old. Pasadena california. On April 10th next month will be my 1YR out from getting GASTRIC BYPASS SURGURY. I cheated...lol...Anyways...I am down from 350 to 220 now...I want to really start lifting/exercising.I just recently got the CAPTIN OF CRUSH #2 it has been almost 2 weeks and I can almosssst close it.I took these pictures on 3.5.07 and I have been running since then with my wife 1/2 mile every day. This coming up week I will raise the bar to 3/4 of a mile. And every week after rasie a 1/4.until I get to 4 miles. My goal!!! To bench press 400lbs just once without a the shirt. I want to do 1 dead hang chin up weighted with 100lbs. I want to complete this!!! But need some directions to get there. Do I take test or decca hyw? How can I develope huge massive ARMS?!?!?!?I would really appreciate some help and advice of the willing. I will be someones TEST SUBJECT on a routine all you have to do is talk to me. I am VERY DEDICATED in getting to my GOAL!!! I just really need a flashlight to get there!!!!!!Thank you for spending your time reading this, it is more appreiciated then you know...

Robert-
Pasadena, California
3.15.07 / 1:54AM

[proironaust]

well done with all your weight loss.Its good to see you have some awesome goals with your life now.But seriously you have to do so much research until you do an aas cycle.You will need to understand every aspect of training, dieting and hardwork before you look at steroids.just make sure you complty understand what your putting into your body before you do it because steroids are toy.just do as much research as you can on everything i hope you can reach your goals.train hard

[stvn21_]

nice weightloss but you need to get a good routine/diet and follow it before you consider steroids and lots of research like said above. get the basics down for at least a year before goin onto steroids or youll b letdown

[Mealticket]

i'm glad you're excited but you didn't need to post this in 4 DFFERENT FORUMS

[Mealticket]

you say you cheated...then laughed. Some people will take offense to that.
Unlike bypass, or lat-band surgery steroids are not a magic pill.
I can tell you this with 100% certainity.
You will NEVER have giant arms or muscles.
When you made the choice to have bypass you also made the choice of having a severly limited diet and exercise program becasue of your stomach size.
I am quite surprised your DR hasn't informed you of this.
Working out like a true athlete, or a true bodybuilder, you will not be able to eat enough food and stay properly hydrated because of your surgery, even if you ate constantly for 12 hrs a day. Your gastric sysmtem is not able to handle it
It just can't happen. YOu literally don't have the stomach for it.
Sorry for the bad news but you can't have your cake and eat it to.
I'm glad the surgery worked for you but building True athlete, or body builder proportioned muscles just can't happen.
To build the kind of muscle you want, and even if you were using steroids would require somewhere between 3000-5000 calsoires a day.
CLEAN CALORIES
lay out on a table 5000 CLEAN calories and look @ how much food it really is. 5000 clean calories is literally lbs and lbs of food. Someone who's had bypass can't digest that amount of food in a day!

[Mealticket]

#3 Today, 04:34 AM
Mealticket
Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,712


you say you cheated...then laughed. Some people will take offense to that.
Unlike bypass, or lat-band surgery steroids are not a magic pill.
I can tell you this with 100% certainity.
You will NEVER have giant arms or muscles.
When you made the choice to have bypass you also made the choice of having a severly limited diet and exercise program becasue of your stomach size.
I am quite surprised your DR hasn't informed you of this.
Working out like a true athlete, or a true bodybuilder, you will not be able to eat enough food and stay properly hydrated because of your surgery, even if you ate constantly for 12 hrs a day. Your gastric sysmtem is not able to handle it
It just can't happen. YOu literally don't have the stomach for it.
Sorry for the bad news but you can't have your cake and eat it to.
I'm glad the surgery worked for you but building True athlete, or body builder proportioned muscles just can't happen.
To build the kind of muscle you want, and even if you were using steroids would require somewhere between 3000-5000 calsoires a day.
CLEAN CALORIES
lay out on a table 5000 CLEAN calories and look @ how much food it really is. 5000 clean calories is literally lbs and lbs of food. Someone who's had bypass can't digest that amount of food in a day!

[thetank]

you say you cheated...then laughed. Some people will take offense to that.
Unlike bypass, or lat-band surgery steroids are not a magic pill.
I can tell you this with 100% certainity.
You will NEVER have giant arms or muscles.
When you made the choice to have bypass you also made the choice of having a severly limited diet and exercise program becasue of your stomach size.
I am quite surprised your DR hasn't informed you of this.
Working out like a true athlete, or a true bodybuilder, you will not be able to eat enough food and stay properly hydrated because of your surgery, even if you ate constantly for 12 hrs a day. Your gastric sysmtem is not able to handle it
It just can't happen. YOu literally don't have the stomach for it.
Sorry for the bad news but you can't have your cake and eat it to.
I'm glad the surgery worked for you but building True athlete, or body builder proportioned muscles just can't happen.
To build the kind of muscle you want, and even if you were using steroids would require somewhere between 3000-5000 calsoires a day.
CLEAN CALORIES
lay out on a table 5000 CLEAN calories and look @ how much food it really is. 5000 clean calories is literally lbs and lbs of food. Someone who's had bypass can't digest that amount of food in a day!

damn...step on a mans optimism why dont you....i completely disagree with what you are saying..i trained a guy who had the same surgery done a year prior, and he got jacked man....hes benching 350 now, naturally, and has 18 inch arms..he took the necessary precautions before stepping in a gym, allowed himself to heal, and worked his way slowly into a workout routine he was comfortable with...so consider this one example, amoungst many, that suggest you dont know what you are talking about dude...

anyway bypass guy, credit where its due, youve made an incredible change..be safe, take things slow and stay consistant, and you can get as big as your genetics allow you
peace
tank

[cj1capp]

look up perfectbeasts log he done an incredible job with a similar problem.

[Jason865]

you say you cheated...then laughed. Some people will take offense to that.
Unlike bypass, or lat-band surgery steroids are not a magic pill.
I can tell you this with 100% certainity.
You will NEVER have giant arms or muscles.
When you made the choice to have bypass you also made the choice of having a severly limited diet and exercise program becasue of your stomach size.
I am quite surprised your DR hasn't informed you of this.
Working out like a true athlete, or a true bodybuilder, you will not be able to eat enough food and stay properly hydrated because of your surgery, even if you ate constantly for 12 hrs a day. Your gastric sysmtem is not able to handle it
It just can't happen. YOu literally don't have the stomach for it.
Sorry for the bad news but you can't have your cake and eat it to.
I'm glad the surgery worked for you but building True athlete, or body builder proportioned muscles just can't happen.
To build the kind of muscle you want, and even if you were using steroids would require somewhere between 3000-5000 calsoires a day.
CLEAN CALORIES
lay out on a table 5000 CLEAN calories and look @ how much food it really is. 5000 clean calories is literally lbs and lbs of food. Someone who's had bypass can't digest that amount of food in a day!

Great post!!!!

[MuscleHead320lb]

Hello everyone...My name is Robert. I am 26 yrs old. Pasadena california. On April 10th next month will be my 1YR out from getting GASTRIC BYPASS SURGURY. I cheated...lol...Anyways...I am down from 350 to 220 now...I want to really start lifting/exercising.I just recently got the CAPTIN OF CRUSH #2 it has been almost 2 weeks and I can almosssst close it.I took these pictures on 3.5.07 and I have been running since then with my wife 1/2 mile every day. This coming up week I will raise the bar to 3/4 of a mile. And every week after rasie a 1/4.until I get to 4 miles. My goal!!! To bench press 400lbs just once without a the shirt. I want to do 1 dead hang chin up weighted with 100lbs. I want to complete this!!! But need some directions to get there. Do I take test or decca hyw? How can I develope huge massive ARMS?!?!?!?I would really appreciate some help and advice of the willing. I will be someones TEST SUBJECT on a routine all you have to do is talk to me. I am VERY DEDICATED in getting to my GOAL!!! I just really need a flashlight to get there!!!!!!Thank you for spending your time reading this, it is more appreiciated then you know...

You are dedicated???? Yet, you cheated???? Obtaining goals such as you have laid out are great, but are you sure you have the dedication you say you have??? Good luck, keep reading. There is tons of info on this great site. Just don't expect people to hold your hand while you try to obtain your goals. Do some research, develop your own plan and stick to it. Once you have developed your own plan, post it up and we will critique it.

MH

[SVTMuscle*]

Musclehead nailed it.

[taiboxa]

yep w/ a bypass putting on large quantites of LBM will be most difficult

[Doc.Sust]

read the programs that are stickied, dont worry about taking steroids, you dont need them because you are just starting to train. read , read and READ more!! as much as you can here, sample routines, sample cycles etc etc. do your home work, all the answers are already here, just use the search feature. design your own routine, and than let people critque it, no one will write you a program.

[Maldorf]

damn...step on a mans optimism why dont you....i completely disagree with what you are saying..i trained a guy who had the same surgery done a year prior, and he got jacked man....hes benching 350 now, naturally, and has 18 inch arms..he took the necessary precautions before stepping in a gym, allowed himself to heal, and worked his way slowly into a workout routine he was comfortable with...so consider this one example, amoungst many, that suggest you dont know what you are talking about dude...

anyway bypass guy, credit where its due, youve made an incredible change..be safe, take things slow and stay consistant, and you can get as big as your genetics allow you
peace
tank

Let the poster know what kind of diet he followed. It must have been really hard to eat that much with a stomach that size. What did he do to get around that?
To the poster, youre not ready for steroid now. You need to learn how to eat and train like a bodybuilder before stepping into that relm. While you are gaining experience in that you should come on here every night and read the forums researching and learning as much as you can about AAS. Id say after a year or two of hard work you could hit it up then IF youre ready. Do the steroids now and you will just set yourself up for failure.

[AirForceTACP]

To the poster, youre not ready for steroid now. You need to learn how to eat and train like a bodybuilder before stepping into that relm. While you are gaining experience in that you should come on here every night and read the forums researching and learning as much as you can about AAS. Id say after a year or two of hard work you could hit it up then IF youre ready. Do the steroids now and you will just set yourself up for failure.

I agree 100%

[Mealticket]

damn...step on a mans optimism why dont you....i completely disagree with what you are saying..i trained a guy who had the same surgery done a year prior, and he got jacked man....hes benching 350 now, naturally, and has 18 inch arms..he took the necessary precautions before stepping in a gym, allowed himself to heal, and worked his way slowly into a workout routine he was comfortable with...so consider this one example, amoungst many, that suggest you dont know what you are talking about dude...

anyway bypass guy, credit where its due, youve made an incredible change..be safe, take things slow and stay consistant, and you can get as big as your genetics allow you
peace
tank

well there's an exception to every rule and i'm just calling like i see it.
If i'm worng so be it, but go ask an MD, i'm not.
not trying to be a buzz-kill here but someone needs to be straight up w/ the guy.
I hope he proves me wrong, i really do!!

[aknopf95]

Have you guys every seen the guy that has like no arms, but he still works out and got muscular? It is possible for gastricbypassguy to reach his goals. It most definitely won't be easy, but if he'll work hard enough, he can do it.
But dude, stay away from steroids! You're nowhere near ready for them

[sassy69]

Start by working w/ your doc or a nutritionist to get on the path to your goals. Stay focused on the small step wins towards your ultimate goals. The good nes there is that if you are making gains along the way, you can be proud of your progress at any point even if you don't hit your ultimate goals - we all have limitations. I will tell you that time invested in your muscles will treat you well. I've been lifting since I was 16 - I'm 41 now. Mature muscle!

I would also look at what you would be very proud of within the limitations of your current situation. I can tell you by looking at all sorts of different people who are ridiculously strong - you don't have to be BIG. Don't get hung up on this sterioded-up big guy thing. You've made a huge accomplishment but just like any shortcut, it will cost you somewhere. As mentioned above - the cost has come in your restricted diet capabilities going forward. Work within that. Look for a person who can help you optimize your diet for you goals but working within your physcial limitations. Bottom line is that if you don't you will pay and your goals will be the least of your concerns.

All of the really gifted physique competitors and strength people I know have invested years in their craft and educated themselves on the sport as well as learning the best way to both take advantage of each individual's personal gifts and assets, but also finding the limitations and best way to improve the limitations. Let me give you an example - me. I'm an amateur female bodybuilder. I qualified for the NPC Master's Nationals in 2005. I trained big & hard last summer to build the size I honestly need for a national level show - I have pretty big upper body, but I also have a 40 yr old ass and estrogen. I also compete at 140 lb at 5'7" -- that puts me in the same weight class as most 5'1" national-level competitors. Obviously the proportions are a little different. So I dieted & trained to overcome that proportion difference. Result - my lifts literally doubled, but my joints started to hate me. By July of last year I couldnt' do anything without aggravating my right rotator cuff to the point that my scapulas would get shoved out from all the locked up muscles in my back. My knees are all F'd up now. They would randomly lock up and I'd literally have to butt-scoot up 30 stairs to get to my bedroom to lay down & let the locked up tendons relax and get me back to normal.

Anyway, the upshot is I won't be competiting in bodybuilding anymore and I'm looking at possibly doing figure competition and dropping 30 lb of mass (muscle and fat) to get to that shape. My training has changed to fast reps & sets with more cardio. I'm looking at different styles of training - more kettlebell and core stability / balance work. I still get to pursue competition. I will be happy w/ a well-muscled but smaller shape, I'll be going easier on my poor old body so it won't just start breaking down since it just doens't recover like it used to. And I'm expanding my knowledge of training methodologies to peak in stuff that is new to me. No downside anywhere here. Just a slightly different set of goals. That's all '

And absolutely - do NOT look to steroids to get you what you want - there are no quicky solutions or magic pills. Steroid use is essentially self-medication w/ hormones - its not like popping an aspirin to get rid of a headache. Its a whole education in itself to understand what you are looking to get into - the sides, the benefits, the "right" way to do and the responsibility to respect your body and make intelligent decisions about them. And the really important thing to understand is that steroids, just like any other supplement - controlled or OTC - is still just a SUPPLEMENT to an ALREADY WELL-ESTABLISHED AND WORKING DIET & TRAINING PROGRAM. You simply can't sidestep that reality. So embrace it and make your body a solid and amazing piece of biochemical machinery.

OK enough soap box, but I cannot tell you how deathly important it is to get the fundamentals mastered first - diet & training. Period. You have additional challenges that you absolutely need to address as well. Its the journey, not the destination. Your body & goals are always changing in response to the small accomplishments you make going forward.

[Lunacy]

#3 Today, 04:34 AM
Mealticket
Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,712


you say you cheated...then laughed. Some people will take offense to that.
Unlike bypass, or lat-band surgery steroids are not a magic pill.
I can tell you this with 100% certainity.
You will NEVER have giant arms or muscles.
When you made the choice to have bypass you also made the choice of having a severly limited diet and exercise program becasue of your stomach size.
I am quite surprised your DR hasn't informed you of this.
Working out like a true athlete, or a true bodybuilder, you will not be able to eat enough food and stay properly hydrated because of your surgery, even if you ate constantly for 12 hrs a day. Your gastric sysmtem is not able to handle it
It just can't happen. YOu literally don't have the stomach for it.
Sorry for the bad news but you can't have your cake and eat it to.
I'm glad the surgery worked for you but building True athlete, or body builder proportioned muscles just can't happen.
To build the kind of muscle you want, and even if you were using steroids would require somewhere between 3000-5000 calsoires a day.
CLEAN CALORIES
lay out on a table 5000 CLEAN calories and look @ how much food it really is. 5000 clean calories is literally lbs and lbs of food. Someone who's had bypass can't digest that amount of food in a day!

Couldnt say it any better.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

gastric bypass is a terrible surgery, i hate the idea. It should never be done on a young person who is young enough to get themselves into shape. Maybe a 60 y/o with heart failure but thats it.

See if they can reverse it. Did they staple your stomach or tie it? i know the ties can easily be undone if you want.
Eating is an essentail part of getting big arms and having a 400lb bench press.

[powerbodybuilder]

Welcome to AR..

[chest6]

To my knowledge gastic bypass is a last ditch emergency effort...

you were 350lbs...I dont really think it was necessary???

Looks like you did take the easy way out, like you said. So you'll now be at a disadvantage at what you want to accomplish.

[bpm1]

awesome posts, mealticket and sassy69! well thought out, helpfull and flame free! thanks!

[NewVader]

Can you revert your bypass? is it just a band?

[midnightman]

Wow!!!

[SVTMuscle*]

haha seems like he's done alot of work since last week

[MuscleHead320lb]

We might have scared him off......*smacks hand* "Bad MuscleHead, Bad!!"

[Spartan_N_Training]

I don't know if you can handle the amount of protein and food you will need to eat in order to get MASSIVE... Won't small stomach have difficulty in holding it all?

Maybe someone else can comment on this.

[fordie 30]

Trial and error for development. Everyone's body adapts differently to excercise. Some gain quickly, others are hard gainers, others burn fat quickly, others don't. You can't rely on someone else to tell you what will work, you need to find out for yourself. Get in the gym, learn technique, and diet properly. You can add supplements to your diet, but research before you buy. Knowledge will help you reach your goals.

[Dude-Man]

I think you might be setting unreasonable goals for yourself.

[Doc.Sust]

I don't know if you can handle the amount of protein and food you will need to eat in order to get MASSIVE... Won't small stomach have difficulty in holding it all?

Maybe someone else can comment on this.

maybe lots of protein shakes?

[bpm1]

where did u go gastricbypassguy? dont let a few harsh comments scare u off. people are always gonna have their opinions, that doesnt mean they are right. u could be that guy that gets massive after the surgery, u never know until u try.

[DNoMac]

Not that this guy is ready for this, but would GH or slin help since he can't "stomach" enough food?

[Renesis]

Thing is the stomach is still stretchy and expandable. Yes he limited his stomach by doing what he did, but it is still possible for him to achieve decent size. The more you eat the more your stomach expands, how do you think people do eating contests? They aren't born with bigger stomachs!! They train their stomach to expand beyond its normal size because thats what your stomach does! Obviously his won't be able to expand to what it could have before the surgery, but it will still expand. With time it will stretch out and he will be able to get down good amounts of food. Although I do believe 5k clean calories will be one hell of a goal.

[zimmy]

no offense, but i dont' think you are aware of what you are telling him.

1) competitive eaters don't have that muchl arger stomachs than you and me... stomachs actually unfold like a accordion not "stretch". The competitive eaters skill comes in when it comes to fighting the chemicals sent to your head to let you know that you are "full" or "stuffed" adn to eat past it. Grant it, your stomach will expand WITH TIME... but it takes years.

2) There is no way to speed through "stretching" a stomach out. For one if you go to fast you can rupture your stomach lining or cause ulcers. And for another , as i'm sure you know quite well by now... if you eat too much , you won't just feel full , you will vomit. And trying to eat more you will just end up malnourished and end up with bulemic like side affects with your throat and teeth.



Now I do think you can eat enough to gain some good muscle... i just think you will have to come up with a diet very specific to you. You probably will need to be eating constantly, like 10-15 times a time considering your portions are so small. too bad they don't do the ring surgery any more...they can reverse that one :P.

[Renesis]

Well if you read what I said, I stated their stomachs are not bigger than ours. The stomach has a certain amount of elasticity thats what I was referring to when I said "stretching. I never said that he would be able to do this all in 1 month either. Competitive eaters train their stomachs by drinking excessive amounts of water to expand their stomach as it doesn't cause them to gain weight due to lack of calories.

[ChaoticLifter]

Some objcts are smaller than others, yet they contain more mass (density)

Could he just pick some foods that are smaller and contain large amounts of calories?

[zimmy]

Telling you guys from experience...both my rents had it done... and you have no idea how fast he will vomit up if he eats even slightly to much.

[cj1capp]

looking for an update ,