Just want sum advice/opinions

[anonymous]

Ok so no flaming bc unlike alot of noobs i honestly have been researching ALOTTT. Problem is there is so much contradicting statements out there! SO my research has anwsered some questions but also brought up more.

Stats : 22 yrs old (23 in aug)
195lbs (not sure about BF but im pretty lean)
lifting since 2003 ( went from 140 wet to now 195 all naty )
Diet is in check ( i dont get TOO crazy with it but every 2.5 hrs i try to get anywhere from 5-8 oz lean meat, brown rice or yams with veggies then an apple or orange and for breakfast i get alot of whole grain oats with flax and banana with a 50g pro shake) <- not too bad but always room for improvement

Gear : 50 dbol 10mg each (prob uping to 100 of them)
test e 250 10ml bottle (prob get one more)
deca 300 10ml bottle

PCT : Still researching best combo for me

Questions : 1) What is the best dosage to run at? I've read that with deca you wanna keep your test higher so im thinking if i do 1cc a week of deca (300mg/week) then i will run the test e at 500/week...sounds right?

2) How do i space out my shots. I have read to do the test on seperate days then the deca so it would be like on Sunday do the deca then do a shot of test on tues and another on thrusday. But i also read that i could do both one shot of test and deca on the same day then 2 days later do the other shot of test ( didnt read that on here tho so i trust what you guys say more ) And i would start taking the dbol one week prior to all this at like 30mg/day.....

3) Now last question wat in hell should i run for PCT there are so many combos out there so i just want to be pointed in the right direction......i still have a lil gyno from puberty so thats my biggest worry....i was thinking of running HCG during my cycle to prevent my balls saying byebye and then letro and either nolvadex or aromsin or arimidex for PCT.....which is better? i have read tons of threads saying contradicting things about which is better....but then i know its good to also have an anti-progesteronic on hand when runnign deca so i guess i should pick up that too??

I just wanna go ahead and thank you guys for your advice and once again i have been researching but i have no one esle to talk to about what im reading so im hoping i can turn to this board for a lil guidance

~Joe

[Cat316]

whats your height?

[anonymous]

oh yeah left on thing out on my stats
This will be my first cycle

[anonymous]

to cat:
5'9"-5'10"

[Cat316]

First when i took deca and test i shot both in the same injection...second shoot two times a week to keep your levels stable...your def going to need more test. how long are you planning on running the cycle

[anonymous]

im thinking 12 weeks so that would be 24 1cc shots of test e 250 so i would def have to pick up another 10ml botle

[Cat316]

If you run test at 400 a week you can get away with 2 bottles...Try running test at 400 deca at 300...im running hcg throughout my cycle in april around 400-500 iu/week

[Geeezer]

Just do the test for your first cycle bro.
What about you PCT? you need to have that in hand before you start a cycle
Good luck to ya

[anonymous]

Just do the test for your first cycle bro.
What about you PCT? you need to have that in hand before you start a cycle
Good luck to ya

Def agree im not starting anything b4 i have my pct just want sum opinions b4 i go out and buy stuff

[anonymous]

If you run test at 400 a week you can get away with 2 bottles...Try running test at 400 deca at 300...im running hcg throughout my cycle in april around 400-500 iu/week

yeah 500 iu/week is what i have read to be a good dosage that being two separate shots of 250 iu with a couple days apart??

What are you doing with your pct?? and have you ever have any progesterone problems like pubery gyno???

[anonymous]

bump

i guess the only two things i need advice on is how to space out the shots and comments on the best PCT which i should prob ask that question in the I dont know PCT thread?? lol Thanks for all the replies so far

[anonymous]

damn so i guess im on my own which probally how most of you guys did it which i dont mind.......search button here i come again!!!

[canadian meat]

I would stick with 500 a week I like sun and thursday shots that worked good in the past for me and def stick to single compound first cycle just my 2cents
cheers

[maxex]

damn so i guess im on my own which probally how most of you guys did it which i dont mind.......search button here i come again!!!

Don't think to much or let this board twist your thinking. There are a ton of contradicting statements out there.

Just figure out what you are going to do and stick to your guns. DOn't second guess your decision. I was probably younger than you when I did my first cycle...I ran sust, deca, and d-bol. It was fvkn great. except for the fact that we knew nothing about pct. You have a great start just being here.

Base your cycle on what you think is best for you based on the "facts" that you have pulled.

[anonymous]

ahh its so hard to keep to a single compound esp since i allready bought the dbol and deca....so you guys think even if i get togethor a good pct that doing more then one compound is a bad idea for a first timer experienced lifter??? NE one did more then one them selves??? much appreciate the advice tho....thanx

[maxex]

ahh its so hard to keep to a single compound esp since i allready bought the dbol and deca....so you guys think even if i get togethor a good pct that doing more then one compound is a bad idea for a first timer experienced lifter??? NE one did more then one them selves??? much appreciate the advice tho....thanx

If you have it run it. You seem like you have this plannes out pretty well.
Just do it.

[anonymous]

as for anti-e/ anti-ball shrinkin im going with hcg 500iu/week and start letro 2 weeks prior to cycle and continue throught out at .5mg/day as for pct i will start nolva the day of my last letro to combat my body trying to even out the test/est ratio and i think i would be good to go......i think the dbols were a good idea to kick start the cycle and i just heard such good things about the deca/test cycle esp for a beginner.....but if like 50 ppl tel me just to do one compound i would be an idiot in not doing so

[anonymous]

If you have it run it. You seem like you have this plannes out pretty well.
Just do it.

I like this guy lol

[maxex]

asbut if like 50 ppl tel me just to do one compound i would be an idiot in not doing so

Out of those 50 people teling you to run 1 chem, Ill bet at least 1/2 of them did not do the same for thier first cycle.

Not to knock anyones advice on here...but you have a good cycle. It will not hurt you, only benifits.

Who knows, this might be the only cycle you ever do, you might not like shooting...might as well make it count.

[Cat316]

My first cycle was test and deca...i did use pct...i know how u feel you want the biggest gains the quickest im not saying do 1 compound but im questioning you taking the dbol with all this for your first cycle man

[anonymous]

yeah there has been a moment or two when i look at my gear and say "dayum do i really wanna be putting all this shit in my body?" but then that thought quickly leaves when i think about beach right around the corner.......but im going to do it all....bc i don't PLAN on doing another cycle and since i already bought it i guess i will just go ahead and use it.........i know i got the dedication to do it right.....hell its saturday night and i passed up going out to a bar with my boys to instead chill with my gurl go to a dinner and got 9oz chicken breast with brown rice and broc and came home at f***** midnight to make sure i get a good enough sleep for my workout tomorrow and i havent even started my cycle yet lol can't imagine how obsessed i will be then.....but i honestly appreciate every single piece of advise i get......