deca/test cycle

[sickness1234]

If i take 300mg of deca and 250 of test should i split it up into twice a week 125mg or is once a week 250 mg fine?

[SMAN12b]

Test E should always be split into two shots, but we already answered this question for you in your other thread!!

Deca can be taken once a week, but if you are splitting the Test E, then just split the Deca and keep blood levels even the entire week

[Cat316]

u know test should be at a higher dose than deca right?

[taiboxa]

u know test should be at a higher dose than deca right?

please elaborate on this as to WHY it should be and after you DO.. then i will inform you of how you are wrong.

[SMAN12b]

u know test should be at a higher dose than deca right?

Ummm WRONG !!

[Cat316]

well if he wants gains from the test he is going to need more than 250mg of test a week to do it...if he is doing it to reduce sides like libido then i gues its alright...if im gana run test though i always have it higher than deca

[hugoboss]

Ok, il bite Tai...
My mates pee pee did work when taking deca with lower levels of test?
I thought deca dik was common in this situation??
Please inlighten me if im wrong?

[SMAN12b]

Ok, il bite Tai...
My mates pee pee did work when taking deca with lower levels of test?
I thought deca dik was common in this situation??
Please inlighten me if im wrong?

I am not Tai, but I do play him on TV

Deca dick is VERY common. BUT that does not mean EVERYBODY gets it. It is however NOT worth the risk to see if you are one of the lucky ones or not because it is guaranteed to shut you down. Did your mates pee pee work after the cycle was over, like a month after? was there any PCT involved

It is different for everybody but generally it could be a problem

[taiboxa]

well if he wants gains from the test he is going to need more than 250mg of test a week to do it...if he is doing it to reduce sides like libido then i gues its alright...if im gana run test though i always have it higher than deca

well.. maybe some people dont like the high androgenic effect from test since that induces more sides. also deca is extremely anabolic meaning it will yield MORE LBM/Strength gains than test will mg to mg.
Since deca dick is stimmed from the suppression of endogenous test production and HAS NO AFFECT wats so ever on exogenous test- meaning IT CAN NOT SUPPRESS synthetic test.. Therefore even an administration of 12mg Test suspension ED is more than enough to counteract any libido issues induced by Deca.

and from personal experience and from others who have ran test at a TRT Dose have reported that the cycles were far more mield in terms of sides and still yielded great results IF not better since they were able to up their dht's and nor groups.

[hugoboss]

Ok so after reading many many posts on deca dik and higher doses of test to prevent it. Now we have two very experienced members telling us otherwise...
Im confused, i have seen libido sides from deca in friends, more info please???????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????

[hugoboss]

Sman, pct was involved but it took about four months for his libido to return to somewhat normal levels.
This has scared me of 19nors all together. i have heard often of longer term probs with libido after use?
I'l just stick with test

[Cat316]

i am 2 know so my next cycle may be better off running test lower than deca
was going to do deca 500 test e 600

[taiboxa]

Ok so after reading many many posts on deca dik and higher doses of test to prevent it. Now we have two very experienced members telling us otherwise...
Im confused, i have seen libido sides from deca in friends, more info please???????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????

infact i wouldnt run test too high since it does AROMATIZE into estrogen.. theres another thing i dont like.. HIGH estrogen when u have a possible increase in proest recepters from your norgroup as well.. HMMMmmmm
the big thing behind TEST higher than ur Deca is just a parroted saying that has been stimmed by many people from board to board who have lil if any expereince in aas. which IMO expereince > studies since studies are NOT CONDUCTED FOR THE BODYBUILDING world but for HEALTH/MEDICAL ordeals.

i have ran tren and test at ED DOSES that are greater than most people run in a week and i can tell you... TEST makes me feel more like shit than tren does.. at high doses.

[hugoboss]

Very interesting Tai, thanks for the info.

[taiboxa]

I am not Tai, but I do play him on TV

Deca dick is VERY common. BUT that does not mean EVERYBODY gets it. It is however NOT worth the risk to see if you are one of the lucky ones or not because it is guaranteed to shut you down. Did your mates pee pee work after the cycle was over, like a month after? was there any PCT involved

It is different for everybody but generally it could be a problem

lol, that is true bout the deca dick.. i know 2 people personaly who run tren and deca.. W/O test and kan still hump their wifes... i dont get ED but my libido goes so far out the window that sex becomes repulsive due to the fact it requires EFFORT ><

[hugoboss]

Tai, are you ever off gear for a longer time? How is your libido in these times?

[taiboxa]

Tai, are you ever off gear for a longer time? How is your libido in these times?

i cruise, i have talked to a few endocrinologists and they all tell me ABOUT the same thing, come off for a period of 6weeks to 6 months every 2.5-3years.
my cycles are pretty harsh but only bout 6-8 weeks, BLITZKRIEG ftw. and i usually run 125mg/testE/wk between cycles.. and i try to wait out 10-12weeks before another blitz... even though i have never had any issues other than bad cholestrol from my cycles. which is a nice ordeal since i know some people have kidney/liver issues just lookin at an 17aa compound.

[hugoboss]

Thanks Tai, very helpful.
I was thinkin of using deca in my next cycle, it wil be my 2nd. But long term damage to my libido is a real concern. its a while off yet and i will continue to research. thanx again

[unoigo]

Interesting read Tai....... Couple questions for ya

Do you agree that Test (no matter what mg being used) should be run 2 weeks longer than Deca?

Based on your history and time in the game, is progesterone related gyno from Deca as prevelant as some make it out to be?

[SMAN12b]

Interesting read Tai.......

Do you agree that Test (no matter what mg being used) should be run 2 weeks longer than Deca?

YES, deca's effective half life is 21 days, so if you quit the test before than you run the risk again of killing the libido

[MX40Plus]

I can tell you from direct experience, higher test dosage does NOT guarantee no DD... I ran 800 test/600 deca = slammed.

[1dsob]

Was the deca dik the only downside to running deca higher than test?

[taiboxa]

Was the deca dik the only downside to running deca higher than test?

there IS NO DOWNSIDE to running deca higher than test.. do u not read the previous posts?!

[Serotonin]

So, is there a particular cutoff for deca dick? Also, would the effect of a rather low dose of deca still help effectiveness of a cycle? Say, 100mg 2x a week with 250mg of Test E?

I'm totally a newb when it comes to deca and the profile on the forum didn't reveal a great deal about the libido sides/dosage.

[Alfamale]

i cruise, i have talked to a few endocrinologists and they all tell me ABOUT the same thing, come off for a period of 6weeks to 6 months every 2.5-3years.
my cycles are pretty harsh but only bout 6-8 weeks, BLITZKRIEG ftw. and i usually run 125mg/testE/wk between cycles.. and i try to wait out 10-12weeks before another blitz... even though i have never had any issues other than bad cholestrol from my cycles. which is a nice ordeal since i know some people have kidney/liver issues just lookin at an 17aa compound.

Its alot of AAS you put in your body... How do you think it will affect your health in the long run?

[passthetest]

Die extremely large/cut at 45