iT's StUcK iN mY ZiPpEr!!!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

NOOOOTTTTTTT

Recently I've noticed more and more NON-AAS users comenting on cycles/compounds.......

I don't think this is very good........Maybe it's just me , but I think if you haven't even tried it or, anything before you shouldn't be giving out information on what someone should use/do.

Honestly I really don't care, you can move it to the lounge after some ppl see this thread....Because, it's kinda ridiculous to give cycle advice to others...yet you've never done one yourself...


Maybe it's just me, but I think they should stay out of threads and just read.

[Atomini]

I guess it's just the difference between practical and theoretical knowlege. Someone might not have ever done or do AAS, but might know EVERYTHING about it, researched it for 20 years, and have a BS in Endocrinology or something. Is he not permitted to give advice?

Just some food for thought.

[king6]

NOOOOTTTTTTT

Recently I've noticed more and more NON-AAS users comenting on cycles/compounds.......

I don't think this is very good........Maybe it's just me , but I think if you haven't even tried it or, anything before you shouldn't be giving out information on what someone should use/do.

Honestly I really don't care, you can move it to the lounge after some ppl see this thread....Because, it's kinda ridiculous to give cycle advice to others...yet you've never done one yourself...


Maybe it's just me, but I think they should stay out of threads and just read.

That is true. The biggest problem I see with advice given, is people fail to realize that not everyone reacts the same way to each compound. One guy may want to run test @ 400mg/week, but others say up the dose to 500, because that is what is the standard dose, but maybe this guy grows like a weed on 400mg of test, and has horrible sides on 500. I had people tell me to bump my Dbol up to 50mg/day, but I noticed the only difference between 30mg and 50mg, is the more hair I lost.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I guess it's just the difference between practical and theoretical knowlege. Someone might not have ever done or do AAS, but might know EVERYTHING about it, researched it for 20 years, and have a BS in Endocrinology or something. Is he not permitted to give advice?

Just some food for thought.

And they could also be the son of god.
So we better listen!

[GGallin]

I agree, I only try to give what little advice I have on the compunds I have taken. But really I dont know much even still so I try to keep my mouth shut. I know enough for myself to cycle and thats about it.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I agree, I only try to give what little advice I have on the compunds I have taken. But really I dont know much even still so I try to keep my mouth shut. I know enough for myself to cycle and thats about it.

Thats the way it should be. Yes if you've tried it you can give some "real life info" on it.....but if you haven't don't just parrot what other ppl have said....come on.

[Booz]

as far as im concerned this should be kept here.........

[*Narkissos*]

bump.

I agree 100%

[GHO5T]

I guess it's just the difference between practical and theoretical knowlege. Someone might not have ever done or do AAS, but might know EVERYTHING about it, researched it for 20 years, and have a BS in Endocrinology or something. Is he not permitted to give advice?

Just some food for thought.

You can have all the degrees and education in the world.

But if you havent cycled or havent actually used the compounds yourself, than IMO the advice given is sort of meaningless.

[MrMe]

I think the person should state in their post if its personal experience or knowledge they have learnt from being here.

[Booz]

less of the lounge comments please and keep it for wat it is.............

[jagdpanther]

I think you need and should use a combination of hands on experiance and theoretical knowledge - the area where the two come together and over lap. As to certain issues like deca dick, I have no intent of taking deca alone just to say I've done it.

[Johny-too-small]

It would be great if new members had to pass an "Anabolics 101" test before they could post. The test could cover the basics of all the stickies in all the forums.

In addition, there could be advanced tests/criteria (cycle history, years training, etc) that could qualify members into catagories (like ebay does with their stars). This would include new members with advanced experience like jagdpanther and weed out post whores like Colum....well you get the point.

[Primalinstinct]

It's called Easter break.

They'll go away and then come back again.

It must be a migration thing.

[MFT81]

Im afraid to admit that Im a good example of what this threads about,

However,

The info that I parrot comes from you guys, the experienced. I would say for the most part the questions I answear are pretty simple and are typically brought up by day one members.

I understand where you point of view comes from but a parttoted answear is just, that no matter if it came from the most juiced out member or someone like me that hasnt used (yet) but has invested the last 5 years on here.

Like I said the answears I give arent any diff than what normally gets posted, on the flip side if Markus 300, Hellmask, or Tai ask something really indepth I know my role and I read and ask a question but I dont say, well i wouldnt do that cause bla blah blah, cause like you guys said I dont know.

Could someone, who hasnt cycled before, tell a noob no dont run deca by itself run test, you could have libido issue I think thats not a big deal,

But should I tell Tai, you really outa reconsider using EQ Next time dood, NO NO way in hell.

Sooooo, like I said, I agree and if you think its a bad idea even for me to post the basic's I wont post, I have no prob with that, Ill still fill my time reading your guys ideas, posts and when that time comes I can offer advice one day too.

[GGallin]

Thats true you should only give info if you have done that particular substance. Most of that crap they teach in health class about steroids and even recreational drugs is exaggerated and misconstrued to scare people into never trying it. Hell my health teacher told my whole class that she would rather drive in a car with someone who had been drinking all day than some one who had just smoked MJ. Just an example of the way the unedjucated think.

[BG]

Bump

[Beefkake31]

It's 50/50 though Hellmask, although I do agree with what you're saying in regards to people parroting information. But in certain cases if someone posts saying he is going to do a deca tren and anadrol cycle in high doses for his first cycle lets say then I think it is ok for someone with knowledge to tell that poster to not do that because then it won't matter if you have done it or not.

Imagine no one responds to that guys thread and he ends up doing it when someone could have just told him why it wouldn't be a good idea. Those are the reasons why I say that in certain instances it should be fine to help others not do stupid things, but yes more often than not people are just talking out of their ass .

So for that reason I say it's 50/50............. well more like 20/80 ... 20% of the time the non users should give their input to certain cases, that is how I look at it.

[hugovsilva]

You have to use common sense before giving advice.
I for example have no probs about advising someone about test, proviron, Eq, Winny and some of the ancilliaries.
When it comes to other compounds I keep myself from going into specifics and only advise about the basics that you can get from reading the profiles and some posts.

[Schmidty]

I give advise to people all the time but i have yet to do a realy cycle. But i do have enogh friends/guine pigs to know a thing or to about some juice

[BG]

It's 50/50 though Hellmask, although I do agree with what you're saying in regards to people parroting information. But in certain cases if someone posts saying he is going to do a deca tren and anadrol cycle in high doses for his first cycle lets say then I think it is ok for someone with knowledge to tell that poster to not do that because then it won't matter if you have done it or not.

I dont think hes meant about safety issues, anyone can tell someone there dosages are to high, hes talking about "dont use deca while trying to build lbm because of bloat", I cut just fine on deca, its diet. As far as water retention, check your sodium and sugar intake. Thats just one example.

[Kale]

The big problem here is not so much the people that have done the research and are commenting, but those that are just parroting back what they heave read with no real clue what they are talking about. My favorite is that you MUST take more Test than Deca in a Test / Deca cycle. These people are dangerous IMO and this is where a lot of the problems with the publics view of steroids stems from, idiots giving advice !!!!!

[Beefkake31]

I dont think hes meant about safety issues, anyone can tell someone there dosages are to high, hes talking about "dont use deca while trying to build lbm because of bloat", I cut just fine on deca, its diet. As far as water retention, check your sodium and sugar intake. Thats just one example.

If that's what he means then as I stated previously I agree with what he is saying. But yes when it comes to safety and health risks I think all the new guys should help out if they really know safety 101 and health 101.

[Beefkake31]

The big problem here is not so much the people that have done the research and are commenting, but those that are just parroting back what they heave read with no real clue what they are talking about. My favorite is that you MUST take more Test than Deca in a Test / Deca cycle. These people are dangerous IMO and this is where a lot of the problems with the publics view of steroids stems from, idiots giving advice !!!!!

NOOO! don't say that now they are going to think let me just take a high dose of deca with no test. We are going to have a thread everyday on "I can't get my pee wee up, what gives?"

[Hellmaskbanned]

NOOO! don't say that now they are going to think let me just take a high dose of deca with no test. We are going to have a thread everyday on "I can't get my pee wee up, what gives?"

If there that stupid then let them go right ahead.

[nbkandrew13]

definately you can read research study theorize but if you dont put it into practice means nothing, now if every compound gave 100% of the people the same results/side effects then you could be an endocrinologist and not use gear and know everything, but every compound effects every person so fukin different its crazy you cant possibly know without first hand knowledge and then that only tells u how it effects u. obviously there are always common denominators.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I give advise to people all the time but i have yet to do a realy cycle. But i do have enogh friends/guine pigs to know a thing or to about some juice

Oh yeah that makes you qualified........

My friend told me he can drive after drinking 20 beers....I've never drank beer but I'd say you'll be fine......

[Hellmaskbanned]

I dont think hes meant about safety issues, anyone can tell someone there dosages are to high, hes talking about "dont use deca while trying to build lbm because of bloat", I cut just fine on deca, its diet. As far as water retention, check your sodium and sugar intake. Thats just one example.

Right.

And also I'm seeing newbies telling what AAS to use for contest prep etc....How would you know what to use before a contest, if you've never been in one, or have any experience with the compound!

And I hear alot of ppl parroting the 50mg+ runs with dbol for first timers that aren't even over 180lbs....thats crazy..

[Beefkake31]

If there that stupid then let them go right ahead.

Ya you're right, anyways, off to take my daily stuff which includes:

Human Growth Hormone
Insulin
IGF-1
2,000 mg of test E along with 4 more anabolic steroids

This is the only way to grow folks, so start taking all these compounds, without all of these you have no chance to grow whatsoever, that is why I take the stuff I just mentioned. I have gained 2 pounds since last year, I know it's not as much as others but it is puuuuure lean muscle I have gained.

[Hellmaskbanned]

The big problem here is not so much the people that have done the research and are commenting, but those that are just parroting back what they heave read with no real clue what they are talking about. My favorite is that you MUST take more Test than Deca in a Test / Deca cycle. These people are dangerous IMO and this is where a lot of the problems with the publics view of steroids stems from, idiots giving advice !!!!!

^
That's gotta be the top one.
They say, You'll have a limp pee pee your girl will leave....and they haven't even tried it.
Hell I've ran deca alone and didn't have a limp noodle, I must be superman.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Ya you're right, anyways, off to take my daily stuff which includes:

Human Growth Hormone
Insulin
IGF-1
2,000 mg of test E along with 4 more anabolic steroids

Nice

[Beefkake31]

Nice

[Haro3]

BASICALLY your saying you dont like PARROTS eh hellmast!?.....you damn parrot