anyone know?

[jojotheman]

height 5'10
weight 180
age 22
bodyfat 13%

im about to start taking a cycle of clen next week with some winny, im going to take it for 6 weeks with no breaks. now i know benadryl is needed to help maintain the clens effects, but no one seems to know the dosage of benadryl needed, also i have some blue heart dianabol left over, what are the contradictions of stacking winny and dianabol together?

[Erwin]

height 5'10
weight 180
age 22
bodyfat 13%

im about to start taking a cycle of clen next week with some winny, im going to take it for 6 weeks with no breaks. now i know benadryl is needed to help maintain the clens effects, but no one seems to know the dosage of benadryl needed, also i have some blue heart dianabol left over, what are the contradictions of stacking winny and dianabol together?

Do more research on your clen before starting. The information you are looking for is out there and from respected people on this board. As for the aas in your cycle, well, research that also. What were you planning for a pct?

[steph-on360]

personally and in my own opinion, i would not do dianabol with winny at the same time, because dianabol put on water retention, winny is completly in contradiction with. Maybe kickstart with dianabol and at leats finish with winny. IMO i would take test over dianabol.

[Decoder]

are you doing the dbol and winny back to back? if so Expect some liver damage...

[GHO5T]

Dont cycle dbol and winni or either of the two for that matter.

Both IMO will cause a degree of ones natty test levels to drop, or shut down completely.

This will be very detrimental to your gains, as a sudden drop of Test levels, will mean a rise in Estrogen, and that brings estrogen related side effects/issues that one doesn't want, such as holding more fat, water ret, bloat, gyno are issues that come to mind.

If you would like you can run clen, however you must know that it is not a miracle drug. One must keep cardio at peak levels and diet/training solid to see optimal results and a loss in fat from the compound.

6 weeks straight of clen, will cause your receptors to be very downregulated, and the clen will be useless.

Run benadryl as needed, as soon as you notice your temp drop down to normal, then incorporate benadryl, take 50mgs a day for seven days, preferrably at night before bed.

Im curious to see how your dosing your clen, if you can provide the protocol your using to dose your clen?

~GHO5T~

[jojotheman]

Dont cycle dbol and winni or either of the two for that matter.

Both IMO will cause a degree of ones natty test levels to drop, or shut down completely.

This will be very detrimental to your gains, as a sudden drop of Test levels, will mean a rise in Estrogen, and that brings estrogen related side effects/issues that one doesn't want, such as holding more fat, water ret, bloat, gyno are issues that come to mind.

If you would like you can run clen, however you must know that it is not a miracle drug. One must keep cardio at peak levels and diet/training solid to see optimal results and a loss in fat from the compound.

6 weeks straight of clen, will cause your receptors to be very downregulated, and the clen will be useless.

Run benadryl as needed, as soon as you notice your temp drop down to normal, then incorporate benadryl, take 50mgs a day for seven days, preferrably at night before bed.

Im curious to see how your dosing your clen, if you can provide the protocol your using to dose your clen?

~GHO5T~

120mcg/day for 6 weeks, no breaks

[Snrf]

120mcg/day for 6 weeks, no breaks

personally I found clen to not be dose ***endent, meaning u'll probably get same results on 40mcg a day as 120mcg a day...w/ less sides.

plus running it 6 weeks isnt effective, I'm not sure I've always stuck to 2 weeks max but they say after 2 weeks its ineffective and u need 2 weeks off or to run benadryl to clear out your receptors