Best kickstart?

[Eat Too Much]

I have 10 weeks of Test E coming up and I want to jumpstart the cycle with something that won't just cause a ton of water retention. Dbol is out of the question for that reason. I was thinking either Tren A or Test P, but I'm not sure about how the dosages should mix with the Test E. The Test E will be at 250mg/ml so could I just use say 100mg of E mixed with 100mg of Prop? What is a good way to set this up?

[Swifto]

Tbol. I loved it. Start at 40mg/ED and work to a dose that suits you. I went as high as 80mg/ED. Loved it. Little water, low sides.

[Dizz28]

I have 10 weeks of Test E coming up and I want to jumpstart the cycle with something that won't just cause a ton of water retention. Dbol is out of the question for that reason. I was thinking either Tren A or Test P, but I'm not sure about how the dosages should mix with the Test E. The Test E will be at 250mg/ml so could I just use say 100mg of E mixed with 100mg of Prop? What is a good way to set this up?

I would suggest some Tren A. It kicks in, for me at least, about 2 days after my first injection and strength is boosted like crazy after a week with no water retention at all. Run it for the first 4 weeks and you will no be disappointed. It will give you a good base to build on with the rest of your Test cycle. Try 50mgs/ED or you can even do 75mgs/EOD.

my opinion
Dizz

[Eat Too Much]

Cool.. I will look into the Tren.. I'm not sure if I'm ready for EOD injects though..
How about anavar? Been doing some reasearch and Anavar looks like a great start to a cutting cycle.. I'm not looking to gain much weight, this is more of a cutter. I just don't want to pin alot, so I'm going with Test E..
Can someone give me the full name of Tbol? I can't find it in the profiles..

[Random]

Can someone give me the full name of Tbol? I can't find it in the profiles

Turinabol

[Random]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199812

[Eat Too Much]

^^^ Thanks.. So Tbol looks to be very similar to Anavar. Either of these two would be a good choice. Would there be any benefit to running 4-5 weeks of either compound till the Test kicks in? Or would I have to stay on longer?

[Eat Too Much]

I'm thinking something like this:
Test E @ 500mg/week 1-10
Anavar @ 75mg ED weeks 1-4
Adex- @ 1mg ED weeks 1-10
PCT 2 weeks after last shot
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 150/100/100/50

If I were to use Tbol instead of Var, how should the doseage look?

[Dizz28]

^^^ Thanks.. So Tbol looks to be very similar to Anavar. Either of these two would be a good choice. Would there be any benefit to running 4-5 weeks of either compound till the Test kicks in? Or would I have to stay on longer?

I can't really say for Tbol because I've never used before but I know with tren you really only have to use it for 4 weeks to get incredible results. I know some advanced users on this board use Tren in much heavier doses for the while cycle. But I think for the average person, it's not needed and also wouldn't be well tolerated.

[Random]

Even tho u are using var as a kickstart...i would still frontload the test e..

CD

[Eat Too Much]

So 4 weeks of Var would be enough? That stuff is taxed!! I really don't wanna have to buy any more than that..lol
Any more comments on how the Tbol should look if I replaced the Var with it?

[Random]

Yea 4 wks of var is enough, but u cud run it wks 1-6 too...

CD

[Eat Too Much]

60 mg/day seems like the average dose for Tbol and it's alot cheaper than Var.. So, I think I'll go with the Tbol for this round..