were do these bases come from?

[dirtball_619]

like test, tren, mast, eq, deca..... were are these base chemicals extracted from? plants? minerals? ive also heard once from an old gym coach that testosterone injection was extracted from dead bodies by the millions... i somehow doubt that though.

thanks

[dece870717]

I dont know where it all comes from but its not test that was extracted from dead bodies but HGH.

[GrimmReaper]

bro, hundreds of distinct steroids are found in plants, animals, and fungi. All steroids are derived either from the sterol lanosterol (animals and fungi) or the sterol cycloartenol (plants). Both sterols are derived from the cyclization of the triterpene squalene.....

[Decoder]

Yeah back in the day growth hormones where extracted from dead bodys but your refering to the 40-60's that stopped all that now.

[dirtball_619]

dece-so hgh is expensive because its extracted from humans?


grimm-bro, can you please explain what a triterpene squalene is or show me an artical? and these sterols you speak of. are they derived from the blood of these animals or cholesterols?i dont know what the hell im talkin about so maybe i should learn chemistry before i know the answer to this q...lol

[dece870717]

dece-so hgh is expensive because its extracted from humans?


grimm-bro, can you please explain what a triterpene squalene is or show me an artical? and these sterols you speak of. are they derived from the blood of these animals or cholesterols?i dont know what the hell im talkin about so maybe i should learn chemistry before i know the answer to this q...lol

HGH is no longer extracted from dead bodies, they stopped doing that a long time ago. Todays HGH is artificially made.

[dirtball_619]

is it as potent? probably more potent

[ebjack]

HGH is no longer extracted from dead bodies, they stopped doing that a long time ago. Todays HGH is artificially made.

what if you wanted to extract HGH from a dead body...how would you do it...
and how many dead bodies would you need??

[J*U*icEd]

all the steroids made these days are synthetic....

[J*U*icEd]

made by bonding elements and compounds together.... it all done with biochemistry... no steriods are taken from dead bodies, plants, or animals

[dece870717]

what if you wanted to extract HGH from a dead body...how would you do it...
and how many dead bodies would you need??

It was extracted from the pituitary gland and I have no idea how much you can get out of a person.

[dirtball_619]

probably need 1000 bodys for a full cycle.

[takedownII]

probably need 1000 bodys for a full cycle.

lol...i better get busy....i got alot of work to do!

[dece870717]

Problem from getting it from dead bodies is that it was found to be able to carry a rare brain disease in rare cases and then that infected HGH would have been administered to children or whoever and they would get that disease and so that was one of the reasons they stopped getting it from cadavers.

[Serotonin]

Pretty much all HGH is made from recombinant DNA technology... similar to how humulin (insulin) is made. I'm not sure of the EXACT procedure but typically in recombinant DNA, a circular segment of DNA called a plasmid is given the gene to create the human product: ie insulin or HGH.

The plasmid is then placed into the medium with the bacteria and most bacteria will take up this plasmid. Through various processes the bacteria containing that plasmid is isolated then placed in huge tanks with nutrients and filters to just keep pumping out the desired product! Which, is exactly the same thing we produce in our bodies, leaving little to NO allergies to the compounds!

Pretty fvckin awesome how bacteria can use the same genes we have huh? And can you believe people still don't believe in evolution?! :P

[dece870717]

Pretty fvckin awesome how bacteria can use the same genes we have huh? And can you believe people still don't believe in evolution?! :P

Or it could mean that the guy that created everything used a basic similar blueprint for all living things and has nothing to do with evolution. But we have to leave it at that cause this type of talk will close the thread.

[Serotonin]

No, when you truly learn of the intricacies of DNA, DNA synthesis, and the natural behavior of the genetic bases. There will never be any uncertainty in any educated mind that life is the product of evolution. But yes, perhaps a God made this world to work with evolution. So we'll agree to disagree dece.

Also, as J*U*icEd said, pretty much all steroids used nowadays aren't derived from animals or plants but made strictly with biochemistry and manipulating compounds until you get what you want.

[scribbs12]

Problem from getting it from dead bodies is that it was found to be able to carry a rare brain disease in rare cases and then that infected HGH would have been administered to children or whoever and they would get that disease and so that was one of the reasons they stopped getting it from cadavers.

i 2nd that.. i read that somewhere.. but i forgot

[Decoder]

i cant wait till im in my 30s to hit up HGH.

[1819]

probably need 1000 bodys for a full cycle.

no wonder my source always has a gun!

[odix]

it only took me 250 bodies bro. get on my level. you got to cut it out and eat it after to get the full effect.