Pro Level Cycle including GH, IGF, Insulin for Competiton

[BIGSNOR]

what were the other portions, I was thinking maybe test prop and dbol for the first four weeks, then maybe test E with Tren after that, then maybe test tren and winny for the weeks after that. I wanted to stagger them so my body doesnt get used to it. If you can let me know what you guys would recommend and possibly dosages. mainly just the compounds and weeks though. thanks

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growth portion looks really solid though Im also doing this more for cuts and lean mass gains than bulk. as always diet and cardio will be good.

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what were the other portions

I didn't write out his AAS cycle, just the Growth Factor portion.

[BIGSNOR]

ok AR just looking for recommendations on the aas portion of it. but thanks for the growth comments. p.s. liked your myogenx PCT.

[GHO5T]

1-8 Prop 100-200mg/ed
1-8 Drol 100-200mg/ed
1-8 NPP 100-200mg/ed

The first 8 weeker could be a good bulker, prime before you start your cycle and you should see some great gains the first 8 weeks, lbs wise.

8-16 Prop 100-200mg/ed
8-16 EQ Prop 200mg/ed
8-16 Winni 100-150mg/ed

The next 8 weeks, you should still gain lbs, but much more lean gains with the compounds you will be running. Dropping the water ret off of the drol, and adding more lean lbs.

16-24 Prop 100-200mg/ed
16-24 Tren 100-200mg/ed
16-24 Masteron 100-200mg/ed

The last 8 weeks, would make for a nice cutter, the Prop, Tren, Masteron cycle is great for a cutter, and should rip you up before comp time.

Also run what Anthony mentioned as far as his growth aspect of the cycle goes.

~GHO5T~

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awesome ghost thanks alot, but why the NPP at the beginning, i have regular deca on hand, im guessing the NPP would hit immediately though huh. Just havnt researched it much, will do. and you think i should stick with the same testosterone ester the entire cycle?

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awesome ghost thanks alot, but why the NPP at the beginning, i have regular deca on hand, im guessing the NPP would hit immediately though huh. Just havnt researched it much, will do. and you think i should stick with the same testosterone ester the entire cycle?

NPP is a shorter ester version of Deca, and thus it will stabalize in your system much faster, and you will see results/gains quicker. The regular Deca version (long ester) takes up to 4-6 weeks to just kick in, compared to NPP which takes about a week.

I would stay with the same Test, again no reason to change Tests, as longer ester tests require a longer wait for kick in to occur.

What you could do is cycle with Test suspension, and Test Prop. If you can stay consistant with the constant injection frequency required for suspension (2-3 times a day) dosage can be around 100-200mg/ed. It should work very well. Gains are huge off the compound, well worth it IMO.

~GHO5T~

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Doesnt suspension come with enormous bloat and fat ***osits? so im guessing you would want me to put it in at the beginning of my cycle. Also do you think I should try to do two 8 week stints of the TREN like this.

weeks 1-8 Test Prop, Tren, NPP, Drol

weeks 8-16 Prop, EQ Prop, Winni

weeks 16-24 Prop, Tren, Masteron, dbol (possibly)

I think tren kicks ass and just wondered if that would be wise or too much. also the dbol at the end was just to get a second oral cycle in, i've heard of people using it before comp to keep strength, and pumps etc. just not sure about how much water I'd retain at that point. Just throwin that out there.

I actually had a caliper test today, im a trainer at a gym, by another trainer and it had me at 15 percent BF. So i would think I need to cut down to at least 10% before I started bulking correct??? or do you think the gains I get from the bulker before the cutting part of the cycle would be well worth it. Im 268 right now. Just unsure of what to do for me.

Also i know this is alot of questions but dont you think I could run those heavy bulking roids in the beginning but keep a very clean low carb diet, that I would put on very solid muscle? I plan on running T3 this entire cycle to cut fat as well. Also thought the GH would cut quite a bit of fat as well, plus i will be doing cardio ED.

Sorry if its hard to answer all that, just have alot of ideas running through my head right now.