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  1. #1
    Scull,

    That answer says exactly what I was saying, it inhibits production and release but looks like the only minor effect it will have on exogenous postglandins is in the form of short term insulin resistance. Considering the impossibility of sleep with your ass cleanched so tight even moving hurts, this small effect once per night is hardly going to ruin the effect especially when no doses are taken during the time the asprin is active. Anyway thank you for the info it is actually comforting becaus eI was a bit worried but think this makes my hunch a bit stronger on the exogenous VS endogenous postglandin/asprin/NSAID issue.

  2. #2
    Tai,

    Whats your stance on receptor or body adaptation or time off? I have a few ideas from my experience and it seems the fat loss from it continues more as time passes eventhough the other sides get lesser.

    Still want to try to again but now that I am off my body has rebounded and I am very puffy after only a few days so it is discouraging to think that the weight loss could be very temporary. I'll wait to judge the muscle gain though ebcause it looks promissing for now.

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    Im tryin to findout if PGCL[cloprostenol] is anybetter then lutylase[dinoprost] and I came across this-----

    In a recent study cloprostenol was injected intramuscularly 24-48 hours prior to the due farrowing date, in a 1250 sow piggery over a 5 week period and compared with an untreated control and dinoprost. The time to onset of farrowing from treatment and its duration were recorded. The response to treatment was also recorded.

    Graph 1. Cumulative percentage of sows farrowing by time period after treatment


    (Source: Cameron and others, 2000)


    The majority of treated sows had farrowed by 35 hours after treatment, 96.5% with cloprostenol and 93.8% with dinoprost and only 33.8% in the untreated controls. It was also noted that the sows treated with dinoprost showed various degrees of excessive nesting behaviour, whereas sows treated with cloprostenol showed minimal stress and discomfort.

    Occasionally sows treated with dinoprost have been reported not to respond to treatment, the cause of which has not been determined but this was not observed in this study.

    Graph 2. Percentage of sows farrowing by time period after treatment


    (Source: Cameron and others, 2000)
    Last edited by scull; 05-30-2007 at 08:35 PM.

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    Does this mean anything?? I don't raise female pigs so it's greek to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goonstopher
    Does this mean anything?? I don't raise female pigs so it's greek to me...
    HA HA--thats what these drugs are made for --Im just trying to show there both pretty much the same and disprove that PGCL is 20xs better than LUTYLASE

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    the whole idea is that the results are more noticable while the sides are more tolerable. I wish I could remember all the damn posts I've read (it's in the millions now I am sure) but I know that was the idea behind it... Same but easier on the user. Also pgf2a is actually harder to get for most people.

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