ok guys i am pro juice like everyone else here,if u wanna believe that there has never been 1 steroid related death than go ahead,recently near me there was an 18yo power lifter who died of heart failure the fact that he was juicing his head off had nothing to do with it?? if i can dig out the media coverage i will gladly show it to u guys,there is no actual evidence as such that smoking causes cancer just statistics,it happens thats all im saying