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"I consider myself an independent conservative who still thinks Bush & Cheney are much better than the last administration, if for no other reason than they are not adulterers and liars, and I believe character counts. Bush in my opinion is very honest, loyal, wise and walks with much integrity. He confounds his critics by doing what he says and saying what he does without wavering."
Whoever wrote and believes this crap should be institutionalized immediately.
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Care to elaborate on where this person is wrong?Originally Posted by Mogamedogz
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I never said that they were "wrong" (that is not really possible considering they are simply stating their "opinion").
I just happen to be of the "opinion", that anyone who REALLY believes that nonsense, is either related to Dubya' or delusional.
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I was just interested what, in your opinion, was specifically "delusional" and why.
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"BUSH IN MY OPINION IS VERY HONEST..."
Maybe this person MISSED what could go down as the single most DEVASTATING lie ever told to the American people... "There are WMD's in Iraq".
We went overseas to find those responsible for 9/11 and when we ran into trouble finding them, we pulled up stakes and proceeded to run "unprovoked" into a country that (while we have a history with), did nothing of relevance to ask for it recently. ALL BASED ON LIES!!
Iraq was not a threat to us. Iraq could have never done much damage to us, and knew full well that if they masterminded any major attack on the US, they would literally be swept from the planet with a full-scale and coordinated attack (key word being coordinated) that was supported by the majority of the planet. Now, however, we aren't against just Iraq. We have accomplished something that no one was thought to be capable of. We united the Middle East with one overlying thought. Hate America. While we have never had allot of friends over there (mostly because of the way we have treated the area over the last century), most of the true hatred wasn't focused, and the countries were never allied in their hatred. For crying out loud, we almost have Iran and Iraq as friends, which has been an eternal war for centuries (granted, I think Iran only wants to expand their borders, but that's not the point).
Thru our bullying tactics, and our support of Israel and their bullying tactics the vast majority of the Middle East (even those who are non-fanatical) are slowly uniting against us. THAT will be a threat. Nearly the entire southern edge of Asia has all but spit in our faces now, and have displayed that they will not concede to our will any longer, and if necessary will die for that belief. This is not even saying how much we have pissed off the rest of the world, including many European nations, as well as most of Asia. We are quickly isolating ourselves from the rest of the world, and we almost cannot come out on top any longer.
WWIII is likely just around the corner, only it will be the most of the entire world against us, and if that happens, we will not survive. How that war will manifest itself appears to be the only question...at least to me.
WMDs wasn't even sufficient reason for us to pull up stakes and plunge into an unorganized battle plan with a completely separate and unclear agenda. Even if it were true, (which it clearly was not) so much for Dubya's "HONESTY").
The funny thing is, he muttered WMD's constantly as if that changed the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and THAT was what the people supported, and THAT was what THE WORLD supported. Instead we half-assed it into Iraq and opened a can of worms that we can't get the lid back on.
In the end, we are there for personal agenda, and no other reason. If you can honestly sit there and come up with another reason why we went there that isn't propaganda ridden garbage, then please...tell me, cuz I am dying to know. It was personal agenda, whether financial or political is moot (I happen to believe that it was for BOTH), there's just no other explanation.
Anyone who considers a moral wrong like ADULTRY, more EVIL than the sacrifice of 3,658 American lives and counting (because of a personal agenda), needs to have their head examined.
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\"BUSH IN MY OPINION IS VERY HONEST..."
Maybe this person MISSED what could go down as the single most DEVASTATING lie ever told to the American people... "There are WMD's in Iraq".
We went overseas to find those responsible for 9/11 and when we ran into trouble finding them, we pulled up stakes and proceeded to run "unprovoked" into a country that (while we have a history with), did nothing of relevance to ask for it recently. ALL BASED ON LIES!!
Iraq was not a threat to us. Iraq could have never done much damage to us, and knew full well that if they masterminded any major attack on the US, they would literally be swept from the planet with a full-scale and coordinated attack (key word being coordinated) that was supported by the majority of the planet. Now, however, we aren't against just Iraq. We have accomplished something that no one was thought to be capable of. We united the Middle East with one overlying thought. Hate America. While we have never had allot of friends over there (mostly because of the way we have treated the area over the last century), most of the true hatred wasn't focused, and the countries were never allied in their hatred. For crying out loud, we almost have Iran and Iraq as friends, which has been an eternal war for centuries (granted, I think Iran only wants to expand their borders, but that's not the point).
Thru our bullying tactics, and our support of Israel and their bullying tactics the vast majority of the Middle East (even those who are non-fanatical) are slowly uniting against us. THAT will be a threat. Nearly the entire southern edge of Asia has all but spit in our faces now, and have displayed that they will not concede to our will any longer, and if necessary will die for that belief. This is not even saying how much we have pissed off the rest of the world, including many European nations, as well as most of Asia. We are quickly isolating ourselves from the rest of the world, and we almost cannot come out on top any longer.
WWIII is likely just around the corner, only it will be the most of the entire world against us, and if that happens, we will not survive. How that war will manifest itself appears to be the only question...at least to me.
WMDs wasn't even sufficient reason for us to pull up stakes and plunge into an unorganized battle plan with a completely separate and unclear agenda. Even if it were true, (which it clearly was not) so much for Dubya's "HONESTY").
The funny thing is, he muttered WMD's constantly as if that changed the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and THAT was what the people supported, and THAT was what THE WORLD supported. Instead we half-assed it into Iraq and opened a can of worms that we can't get the lid back on.
In the end, we are there for personal agenda, and no other reason. If you can honestly sit there and come up with another reason why we went there that isn't propaganda ridden garbage, then please...tell me, cuz I am dying to know. It was personal agenda, whether financial or political is moot (I happen to believe that it was for BOTH), there's just no other explanation.
Anyone who considers a moral wrong like ADULTRY, more EVIL than the sacrifice of 3,658 American lives and counting (because of a personal agenda), needs to have their head examined.
Bullshit!! Think about it. The world has become too commercilaized. If you take away the U.S.'s buying power from the rest of the world, everybodys economy would crumble. We are the number 2 importer in the world behind China!
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That's what happens in a (modern day) "WORLD WAR"...Economies will crumble.
You dont think that the "former" Soviet Union is sitting back right now watching us fight this war that we cant win, wearing a huge grin?? (Similar to what we did to them??) I wouldnt be (even a little bit) surprised if the insurgents were getting a little "secret asistance" from our old foe's.
Like I said... it is not a matter of "IF", it is a matter of "When" and "How". What you are seeing in Iraq, is the begining stages of the third World War.
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