Im F'in done with Test Prop!!!!

[pr0digy9daniel]

Every day shots suck!!!! The unbearable pain!!! Ive used painless prop with EO and regular prop with GSO with no differnece, it all hurts the same.... The shot itself doesnt hurt at all, its the following days in which the pain sets in..... Im tired of Walking sideways down the stairs for days after a prop shot in the quads...... Im tired of not being able to lift my arms over my head for days after delt shots.... Im tired of having to sleep on one ass cheek for days after a glute shot.... Im tired of being sick with the test flu that I always seem to get when I use test prop....

I am now on test E and loving it... 2 shots a week and no pain... gotta love it....

Uhh have you ever thought you might have an allergic reaction or sensitivity to the testosterone mix, or the oil base its suspended in? Or perhaps your gear is bad... I suggest trying another product from another supplier...

[BG]

If you guys read the profile, this is why its perfered over test-e and c.



So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you’ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone! The advantage to longer esters is that they need to be injected less frequently (test prop needs to be injected every other day while you can shoot test cyp once a week). The disadvantage to long estered steroids is that they contain less actual steroid. Anecdotally, however, most people from Steroid.com and other discussion boards who have tried differing esters on their various cycles agree: Testosterone Propionate causes the least side effects and the least bloating. For this reason, it’s often the testosterone of choice in cutting cycles. On a personal note, it’s the only form of testosterone I ever use, and it’s the only one most women will use, due to the previously mentioned factors (as well as it’s ability to clear your body quickly upon cessation in the case of side effects). Testosterone levels when you’re using injectable testosterone propionate begin to decline sharply after the second day of use(5). Obviously this is not the drug of choice for those who are squeamish about injections…you’ll be shooting this stuff every other day at least.*


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[Merc..]

Beat me to it man. I was going to post bajan bastards active hormone post explaing it but your faster than me.. LOL !!

If you guys read the profile, this is why its perfered over test-e and c.



So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you’ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone! The advantage to longer esters is that they need to be injected less frequently (test prop needs to be injected every other day while you can shoot test cyp once a week). The disadvantage to long estered steroids is that they contain less actual steroid. Anecdotally, however, most people from Steroid.com and other discussion boards who have tried differing esters on their various cycles agree: Testosterone Propionate causes the least side effects and the least bloating. For this reason, it’s often the testosterone of choice in cutting cycles. On a personal note, it’s the only form of testosterone I ever use, and it’s the only one most women will use, due to the previously mentioned factors (as well as it’s ability to clear your body quickly upon cessation in the case of side effects). Testosterone levels when you’re using injectable testosterone propionate begin to decline sharply after the second day of use(5). Obviously this is not the drug of choice for those who are squeamish about injections…you’ll be shooting this stuff every other day at least.*


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[BG]

That's a myth.

You must have never used it. To get the same amount of free test as prop, you will have to shoot higher dosages of long ester testosterones, hence raising your estrogen levels higher then when using prop giving you more water retention.

[Merc..]

Heres Bajan's active hormone chart !!! http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=244688

[BG]

your faster than me..

Nah just got lucky this time.

[Merc..]

Nah just got lucky this time.

[Schmidty]

Need I say more

[Lejes]

Test suspension ftw! :-D

[Schmidty]

Test suspension ftw! :-D

Fvck that. I will gat a few cycles under my belt b4 I hit that shit

[Merc..]

Two shots ED and moonface( I bloat like a bitch from suspension) suspension is not for me !!!

Fvck that. I will gat a few cycles under my belt b4 I hit that shit

[Decoder]

I know what brand your using, and yes there shit hurts, every shot of there steriod hurts. There smooth painless injections is false. Even with the test enth but its more bareable only doing it twice a week. I did prop once for 8 weeks never again.

[Billytk03z]

Uhh have you ever thought you might have an allergic reaction or sensitivity to the testosterone mix, or the oil base its suspended in? Or perhaps your gear is bad... I suggest trying another product from another supplier...

Bro,

I have used many different varieties of prop..... Decoder knows exactly which one i was using as of late.... but I have used pharmaceutical grade prop from a pharmacy which was prescribed by my hormone doc (yup I was lucky to get one of those guys, this will protect me from problems with my job etc.... ) anyway that hurt like a bitch too.... I will go ahead and try eod shots of prop cut with extra sterile oil than my regular ed straight prop shots and see if I notice a difference!!

but to piggy back on what bigguns stated earlier... I shoot extra Test E than just the standard dose to get more test... My test E is 250mg/ml, so I shoot 1.5 ml to get roughly 250mg of pure test...

[Merc..]

Let us now how it works for you. As I said before cutting it makes the diffrence between me using prop and not . Same problem you have and started cutting with cottonseed oil almost painless now .........

Bro,

I have used many different varieties of prop..... Decoder knows exactly which one i was using as of late.... but I have used pharmaceutical grade prop from a pharmacy which was prescribed by my hormone doc (yup I was lucky to get one of those guys, this will protect me from problems with my job etc.... ) anyway that hurt like a bitch too.... I will go ahead and try eod shots of prop cut with extra sterile oil than my regular ed straight prop shots and see if I notice a difference!!

but to piggy back on what bigguns stated earlier... I shoot extra Test E than just the standard dose to get more test... My test E is 250mg/ml, so I shoot 1.5 ml to get roughly 250mg of pure test...

[Merc..]

Oh also just make sure when you load the syringe load the prop first than the cottonseed oil so the cottonseed goes in first when you inject it .

[Property of Steroid.com]

Two shots ED and moonface( I bloat like a bitch from suspension) suspension is not for me !!!

Even suspesion doesn't hurt me....the only thing that ever really gave me bad soreness was 100mg/ml winny.

The prop I get from the pharmacy on my 'script is pretty much painless.

[Merc..]

Hey Hook you lucky mofo lol.... Even my pharmacy grade prop from my doc is painful I guess everyone is different and peoples bodys respond to BA and BB in different ways!! Dam Ant if 100 mg /ml winny gave your a s s soreness it would probably kill me lol...

Even suspesion doesn't hurt me....the only thing that ever really gave me bad soreness was 100mg/ml winny.

The prop I get from the pharmacy on my 'script is pretty much painless.

[Billytk03z]

Ok! this week I went off of Test E and back on Test Prop..... I started shooting 200mg prop eod cut with 1ml sterile grape seed oil.... shot Sunday and Tuesday in the glutes and I have no pain.... Amazing!!! the real test will come on Thursday and Saturday when I shoot my quads (thats where the real pain I experience starts) keeping fingers crossed that the extra oil is keeping the prop suspended longer....

[Merc..]

Glad to hear it !! As I told you before I have seen cutting prop with sterile oil work with quite a few people!!! Keep us posted on the quad shot !!!!

Ok! this week I went off of Test E and back on Test Prop..... I started shooting 200mg prop eod cut with 1ml sterile grape seed oil.... shot Sunday and Tuesday in the glutes and I have no pain.... Amazing!!! the real test will come on Thursday and Saturday when I shoot my quads (thats where the real pain I experience starts) keeping fingers crossed that the extra oil is keeping the prop suspended longer....

[kuad]

i finally found painless prop, before that i was the big suck!

[buckeyefootball4]

Every day shots suck!!!! The unbearable pain!!! Ive used painless prop with EO and regular prop with GSO with no differnece, it all hurts the same.... The shot itself doesnt hurt at all, its the following days in which the pain sets in..... Im tired of Walking sideways down the stairs for days after a prop shot in the quads...... Im tired of not being able to lift my arms over my head for days after delt shots.... Im tired of having to sleep on one ass cheek for days after a glute shot.... Im tired of being sick with the test flu that I always seem to get when I use test prop....

I am now on test E and loving it... 2 shots a week and no pain... gotta love it....

my friend is injecting test prop and tren twice a week (mon-thur) and is having great gains, give it a try.

[NightWolf]

my friend is injecting test prop and tren twice a week (mon-thur) and is having great gains, give it a try.

Why is he only injecting the PROP twice a week?

[Kratos]

my friend is injecting test prop and tren twice a week (mon-thur) and is having great gains, give it a try.

or don't because it's stupid
I told you that in your other thread

[AnabolicBoy1981]

You must have never used it. To get the same amount of free test as prop, you will have to shoot higher dosages of long ester testosterones, hence raising your estrogen levels higher then when using prop giving you more water retention.

just contradicted yourself. if you have to shoot more test E or C to match the same level of test as prop, then its the same amount of test, and the same amount of estrogen.
BigGuns, which weighs more? a pound of feathors or a pound of bricks? lol. sorry. not flaming.
if long esters do cause more water retention, there must be another reason we are not aware of, or it might be an urban legend.
I notice i get more arm acne with long esters, even the first week. I never have acne...period..ever.
Prop just gives me pain. not so much bloat and acne.
I personally think aromatase somehow effects the test even when its attached to the ester. So long esters, hanging around longer, has more conversion to estro. This is just my theory, as impossible as it seems.

[buckeyefootball4]

Why is he only injecting the PROP twice a week?

it was his choice and it seems to be working for him, everyone is diff.

[Billytk03z]

Glad to hear it !! As I told you before I have seen cutting prop with sterile oil work with quite a few people!!! Keep us posted on the quad shot !!!!

I am f*ckin Amazed!!!! I can use prop again!!!


I have been cutting 200mg/ml prop shots with 1ml of sterile grape seed oil (injecting 2ml total) and I have had no pain at all..... I just finished my a full week of glute and quad shots and I have no pain what so ever...... I am so excited.....

I truly recommend that if anyone is having probs with pain cuz of prop, then just cut it with at least 1ml of sterile oil... works like a charm.... good lookin out bros!!!

[cookiemonstR]

Every day shots suck!!!! The unbearable pain!!! Ive used painless prop with EO and regular prop with GSO with no differnece, it all hurts the same.... The shot itself doesnt hurt at all, its the following days in which the pain sets in..... Im tired of Walking sideways down the stairs for days after a prop shot in the quads...... Im tired of not being able to lift my arms over my head for days after delt shots.... Im tired of having to sleep on one ass cheek for days after a glute shot.... Im tired of being sick with the test flu that I always seem to get when I use test prop....

I am now on test E and loving it... 2 shots a week and no pain... gotta love it....

Prop doesn't always hurt, depends where you get it. And you don't have to do shots ED you can do EOD instead, cheers

[Billytk03z]

Prop doesn't always hurt, depends where you get it. And you don't have to do shots ED you can do EOD instead, cheers

bro,

well every brand of prop that I have used has hurt like a bitch!!! but now that I am cutting it with 1ml of sterile grape seed oil, i have no pain!!!

[brajosm]

great to hear, u can get grape seed oil at any grocery store right

[NightWolf]

Is all grape seed oil sterile?

[Billytk03z]

no all grape seed oil is not sterile...... LOL...... grocery store bought oils is not sterile....

I order my sterile oils from research labs, etc.....

[NightWolf]

Ya i thought so, because the guy that made the post before me asked if the grocery store had grape seed oil.

[SuperK]

Since everybody's throwing in their 2 cents on this one, I thought I would too. I just starting using test prop. I just did my third injection (100mg/ml), delts only-alternating. I have had no pain and just a little minor swellage. I'm not 100% positive my junk is real though, the lab is too new.

[brajosm]

ok no grocery store oil, gottcha ya

[Merc..]

You can buy unsterile oil( at the grocery store) but you have to use the heat/ sterilization process to render the oil sterile. Bake the oil in a pan in the oven at 350 degrees for 10-15 mins . Let cool completely and than filter through a .45 um whatman filter and than a .22 um filter into a sterile sealed vial. Or you can search online for somewhere that sells sterile cottonseed oil..

[Merc..]

Glad to hear it man !!!!!

I am f*ckin Amazed!!!! I can use prop again!!!


I have been cutting 200mg/ml prop shots with 1ml of sterile grape seed oil (injecting 2ml total) and I have had no pain at all..... I just finished my a full week of glute and quad shots and I have no pain what so ever...... I am so excited.....

I truly recommend that if anyone is having probs with pain cuz of prop, then just cut it with at least 1ml of sterile oil... works like a charm.... good lookin out bros!!!

[lightwaytbaby]

i love my prop with e0 already in it!!!

[godkilla]

or don't because it's stupid
I told you that in your other thread

i agree. and recomending it to someone else is even more stupid.

[brajosm]

You can buy unsterile oil( at the grocery store) but you have to use the heat/ sterilization process to render the oil sterile. Bake the oil in a pan in the oven at 350 degrees for 10-15 mins . Let cool completely and than filter through a .45 um whatman filter and than a .22 um filter into a sterile sealed vial. Or you can search online for somewhere that sells sterile cottonseed oil..

ok, question
could you heat the oil then pull has much has u wanted into a couple needle's for storage

[Merc..]

No !! You have to heat and filter to render the oil sterile. It needs to be stored in a sterile vial . I would not store it in a syringe as air getting to it would be my concern ( infection )!!

ok, question
could you heat the oil then pull has much has u wanted into a couple needle's for storage