We can throw symetry out the window with today's bodybuilders. Guy's like Ronnie, Cormier, Ruhl and Dillet all look too round. Ronnie's gut and Ruhl's synthol shoulders are just not appealing to me. Genetic freaks they are but look unhealthy. I would rather look like Arnie, Zane, Scott, Columbo, Haney and others rather then what's out there today.