IN cycle confusion

[BlackWidow]

Hey guys,

I finished the 4th weeks of my FIRST cycle which I intended to do like this:

Week 1: Test E 500 mg
Week 2: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 30 mg ED
Week 3: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 30 mg ED
Week 4: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 40 mg ED
Week 5: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 40 mg ED
Week 6: Test E 500 mg
Week 7: Test E 500 mg
Week 8: Test E 500 mg
Week 9: Test E 500 mg
Week 10: Test E 500 mg
Week 11:
Week 12:
Starting PCT at week 13 ( 2 weeks after last E shot ).

As you see it's a bulker but the proplem that I started at a relatively high body fat.. I know I can't get my body in shape with only one cycle but I was thinking of doing somethings:

1- Extend to 12 weeks
2- Add Test prop to the couple of weeks before the start of PCT
3 Add T4 ( I know T3 is better but I can get 100 tabs of T4 each 100 micrograms for like one buck ) to the last 6 weeks.

It'll be like this:

Week 1: Test E 500 mg
Week 2: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 30 mg ED
Week 3: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 30 mg ED
Week 4: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 40 mg ED
Week 5: Test E 500 mg + Dbol 40 mg ED
Week 6: Test E 500 mg
Week 7: Test E 500 mg
Week 8: Test E 500 mg
Week 9: Test E 500 mg + T4 200 mcg ED
Week 10: Test E 500 mg + T4 300 mcg ED
Week 11: Test E 500 mg + T4 400 mcg ED
Week 12: Test E 500 mg + T4 400 mcg ED
Week 13: Test prop 150 mg EOD + T4 300 mcg ED
Week 14: Test prop 150 mg EOD + T4 200 mcg ED
Starting PCT at week 15 ( 3 days after last prop shot ).

What do you think?!! Would it be good?! Would it be risky?! Will I need HCG?! Is it much or long for a first cycle?!

Feel free to discuss.

Any input will be appreciated.

[RA]

Wow, those are some high doses of t4..

IMO, you should skip it and just cut the crap out of your diet.

[10nispro]

What are your stats? This helps alot. how is the diet?

Why are you trying to make it complicated for the 1st cycle? Keep it simple, because you don't know how your body is going to react to things.

[PinJammer]

I like the look of that first cycle, I continue it and start some hcg around 11 weeks in. I wouldn't be messin around with alot on a first go. Diet has alot to do with it. Your not skipping out on cardio are ya? What other meds you have planned for pct?

[BlackWidow]

Wow, those are some high doses of t4..

IMO, you should skip it and just cut the crap out of your diet.

You mean skip the T4 only or the whole change of the cycle?!!
I mean 19 weeker - no prop - no T4... huh?

[BlackWidow]

I like the look of that first cycle, I continue it and start some hcg around 11 weeks in. I wouldn't be messin around with alot on a first go. Diet has alot to do with it. Your not skipping out on cardio are ya? What other meds you have planned for pct?

Unfortunately I donnot do cardio at all now...

Other meds are Proviron 50 mg and Nolva 20 mg ED for the whole cycle till PCT

PCT:

Day 1: Clomid 300 mg + Nolva 40 mg + Prov. 50 mg + Vit E
Days 2-28: Clomid 100 mg + Nolva 40 mg +Prov. 50 mg +Vit E
Days 29-42: Clomid 50 mg + Nolva 20 mg + Prov. 50 mg + Vit E

May be I'll throw some carnitine during PCT also...

[PinJammer]

Oh man, I can't take that clomid stuff, makes my eyes hurt and do funny things. That pct looks good though. Yeah, man I would consider doing some cardio. Never too late to start that. That's gonna help burn more fat on cycle, as your test E should be doing a little bit of that now.

[BlackWidow]

Oh man, I can't take that clomid stuff, makes my eyes hurt and do funny things. That pct looks good though. Yeah, man I would consider doing some cardio. Never too late to start that. That's gonna help burn more fat on cycle, as your test E should be doing a little bit of that now.

How much cardio will be enough?!
I am training 4 days a weeks .. would 15 minutes on the bike before every session will be enough?!

[BlackWidow]

Needing more opnions on cycle upgrade....

[PinJammer]

Nothing wrong with cardio before training, except maybe legs days, I'd skip. At least twice a week would make a difference I'm sure.

[BlackWidow]

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