i think u may need a close relative to donate sum organs to you bro. all due respect. the d-bol is way too long for starters. so is the winny. winny is 17 alpha alkyllated.. 8 weekx max bro. this is just my opinion man. thats what other opinions are for....either way. good luk...but have all ur liver support along bedside..in case u cough up a piece of ur liver bro.