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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    very very unlikely.

    could be possible on a first cycle....I remember my first cycle ever...eight years ago now...I went from 170 to 210 off sust and d-bol and in the end stayed at around 195. My first cycle had the best gains ever...I wish I knew then what I know now about sust...what a waste that was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss
    Sustanon is fantastic, simply misunderstood. Mg for Mg, it is perhaps the most effective testosterone, as even lower dosages(1 amp[250mgs] per week) will provide significant gains in leans muscle mass and strength. For this reason, it also tens to produce less sides. Again, this is only at 1 amp per week, or 1 amp every four days.
    YOU have to be JOKING.. test is test and infact sustanon is utilized for trt protocols and not bodybuilding regiments.

    the multiple esters cause more fluctuations in blood levels in most cases where as a single ester are much easier to manipulate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss
    Actually, testosterone is not testosterone.

    "Testosterone Enanthate and Testosterone Propionate produce different results, despite being exactly the same parent molecule. The only thing that renders them DIFFERENT, is the particular ESTER attatched to the testosterone molecule. It can also be said that Sustanon and Omnadren(which are now identical) produce different results altogether than the other testosterones esters. So DOES the ESTER actually affect the behavior of the molecule?

    To an large EXTENT, YES...

    This is a a subject for another article altogether, but the principle remains important for the discussion of yet ANOTHER TESTOSTERONE, that also seems to produce quite different results than all of the other esterfied testosterones....

    Let me introduce you to the PUREST, MOST POTENT, MOST POWERFUL form of testosterone in existence: TESTOSTERONE SUSPENSION.

    Testosterone suspension is PURE TESTOSTERONE suspended in a water solution. The effects of this preparation are felt almost IMMEDIATELY, as your testosterone levels SPIKE within 1-2 hour of injection. Testosterone suspension is incredibly unique, in that it is in and out of the body within 24 hours, but as we will see, this does NOT neccessarily mean more frequent injections.

    Testosterone suspension will cause an IMMEDIATE and POWERFUL increase in androgen blood levels, usually resulting in a subsequent increase in DHT and estrogen. This is why users who inject 100mgs Testosterone suspension every day for 6-8 weeks at a time, experience drastic water-retention, and in many cases, aggrivated Gyno, Hairloss and/or Acne. "
    when you CUT AND PASTE you should attribute and cite your work.

    2ndly that post is idiotic, do you really truly think im unaware of how a ester group effects a molecule?.. congrats you increased your testosterone per mg by 20% in all honesty thats pointless where as you would still get more raw testosterone from 1 ml of a 250mg/ml dosing fo testE than you would from a 100mg/ml Test suspension thus you sir are AN IDIOT.. take ur ROSS LIKE PARROTRY some where else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boss
    Sustanon is fantastic, simply misunderstood. Mg for Mg, it is perhaps the most effective testosterone, as even lower dosages(1 amp[250mgs] per week) will provide significant gains in leans muscle mass and strength. For this reason, it also tens to produce less sides. Again, this is only at 1 amp per week, or 1 amp every four days.


    I have to say .... Sust for the most part is garbage. why would you base a 10 week cycle with four different esters mixed into your test? 1 amp a week dude....whew...I cant agree with you at all on that.

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