og, thanks for the advice bro, always nice when i get peoples responses who i value, prop usually makes me sick for some reason though, dunno if my body doens't like the propionate ester or what, ill throw it in if i get some dick problems, but i think ill leave it out for now...another question for those of you that know about dieting, if im cutting calories significantly, (like i am doing), and doing cardio (even more stress), the body is goin to release cortisol undoubtedly, but the intake of fina and winny should compete for those receptors and i should maintain all muscle mass if not gain some in the meantime considering my <a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a> intake is high enough...? i guess my question is while losing fat(my main concern) i should be preserving mass and possibly even adding a bit here and there...am i right in my thinking or no? all advice is welcome, thanks everyone, take care