Actually we are both right here and maybe you misunderstood me. Yes for example if you took 100mg of Tren E then you would get more results and longer drug life than if you took 100mg Tren Ace, however what Im saying is 100mg of a Tren Ace injection is going to give you higher levels than Tren E,,,but not near as long so yes the cumulative effect is greater, but the actual blood level, even though shorter, is higher with the ACE,,And you said the longer the ester the higher the blood levels which is false,,,,,,but yes the longer the ester, the longer the blood levels are elevated,,,come on vets, help me out here....,I will find the article on this when I get time...Originally Posted by hugovsilva