sorry guys been busy and have been waiting for somehting to write about... I am starting in on my 8th week, I am sad to report that after reading addition threads on similar cycles that I think that my gear is partially fake; in some way or form. I have leveled off at about 202 lbs which brings the total to about 13-14 pounds gained... i dunno - i could be wrong..strength levels are still good and hunger is still there... hit me back with wht u guys think...