nightwolf, i hate to break it to you but all these guys are right, trust me. this guy has absolutely no clue what is going on. he has no clue about anything relating to microbiology, bacterium or pyrogens. if i were you i would just let this thread die because it might be one of the worst quotes i have ever read. "steroids can kill you directly like tren or indirectly through all the rubber you injecting into your body" maybe the dumbest quote ever. i dont understand how you can sit here and rip everyone else for calling a spade a spade....... i have one question for you what do you think has more bacteria...... your gear or your toothbrush? i will give you a hint one of them you put in your mouth every morning day after day after day. so should we all quit brushing our teeth? i hope not...........