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    Take a walk around Washington D.C some time and explore our national monuments. Noting all of the quotes from our Founding Fathers in regards to GOD. Pull out the money in your pocket and note that it says "In God We Trust" on each one. Although it is always muttered by those opposed to any religion, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear anywhere in the Constitution.
    1st Amendment:
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;........"
    Declaration of Independence
    "....separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them".....
    "....all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"........
    ..."appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions:.....
    ....:with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence".....

    1892 US Pledge of Allegiance: "...Under God...."

    Go ahead and use some no-name individual and a page long post in an attempt to validate your position. I will use historical documents and monuments to prove mine. I could fill up dozens of pages with examples taken directly from the Founding Fathers' mouths. The facts are just not on your side.......
    Last edited by Logan13; 12-30-2007 at 09:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    Take a walk around Washington D.C some time and explore our national monuments. Noting all of the quotes from our Founding Fathers in regards to GOD. Pull out the money in your pocket and note that it says "In God We Trust" on each one.
    National monuments and currency do not tell Americans what our rights are. The US Constitution does.







    Quote Originally Posted by Logan
    1892 US Pledge of Allegiance: "...Under God...."
    The US Pledge of Allegiance started out without the phrase "under god." It was not until the 1950 Communist scare that it was added.
    http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm

    Don't tell me you didn't know that.


    And you should look into the history of that "In God We Trust" phrase on coins. When it was first suggested, it was the Christians who were dead set against it. They stated that putting a religious phrase on money would cheapen religion.

    Don't tell me you didn't know that either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock View Post
    National monuments and currency do not tell Americans what our rights are. The US Constitution does.

    The US Pledge of Allegiance started out without the phrase "under god." It was not until the 1950 Communist scare that it was added.

    Don't tell me you didn't know that.
    The Knights of Columbus are the one's who started the trend. Referring to Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg address, "under God". The question is, is it still in the Pledge?

    And you should look into the history of that "In God We Trust" phrase on coins. When it was first suggested, it was the Christians who were dead set against it. They stated that putting a religious phrase on money would cheapen religion.

    Don't tell me you didn't know that either.
    And yet both references to God have persisted through time. Don't tell me that you didn't know this. No rebut to the other 90% of my post....hmmmm. Again, the facts are not on your side. Being snide in your rebuff is just icing on the cake as it makes it obvious that you are in over your head.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    Take a walk around Washington D.C some time and explore our national monuments. Noting all of the quotes from our Founding Fathers in regards to GOD. Pull out the money in your pocket and note that it says "In God We Trust" on each one. Although it is always muttered by those opposed to any religion, the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear anywhere in the Constitution.
    1st Amendment:
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;........"
    Declaration of Independence
    "....separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them".....
    "....all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"........
    ..."appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions:.....
    ....:with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence".....
    thats a good one Logan and do you know the same Thomas Jefferson that wrote that is the same one that Tock claims is an Athiest

    You know the truth is Tock is not an athiest, like most athiest he claims to not believe because he's just angry at God.

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