Second Cycle: is three injectibles too many?

[turcios3]

First off, I'm a newby of sorts. My first cycle was 12 weeks Deca, 10 weeks Andriol, and six weeks Turnibol. It went ok, I gained 12 pounds of mass, but lost it after 3 months. I made the mistake of no pct afterwards. I recovered slowly but it took a while to recover my sex drive. No withdrawal, but my gonads never made a full recovery. I can do it about 2 times a day, but not quite like before. Now I'm starting a new cycle but I got protection, plenty of clomid, and nolvadex (just in case).
For this new cycle, I'm running Sustanon, Winnie depot, and Equipoise for 8 weeks, followed by a month of clomid. I have done a lot more research since my first cycle.

My main question: running three injectibles too many?

I know that Sustanon and Winnie depot are a good stack, but do I really need the Equipoise, or should I save that for a future cycle? I welcome any feedback on all of what I wrote, not just the question.

[IM MACHO]

First off whats your stats and goals??

[turcios3]

5'9" 172 lbs. Trying to put on 20-25 pounds of lean mass, with no bloat. Thus the winstrol depot.

[canadian meat]

5'9" 172 lbs. Trying to put on 20-25 pounds of lean mass, with no bloat. Thus the winstrol depot.

With those stats your main concern shouldnt be a cycle it should be sorting your diet out.

[longhorn814]

5'9" 172 lbs. Trying to put on 20-25 pounds of lean mass, with no bloat. Thus the winstrol depot.

so you think winny will keep ya from bloating?

You need to run sust and eq longer..preferably 12 weeks..and it sounds like you need to work on your diet and learn how to eat to bulk..no amount of juice will do anything for ya if you cant grow naturally

[hobbs9963]

Never used winnie or eq. to build mass. Especially 20-25 lbs. I'm of the belief that you have to bloat a little and gain some fat (eat like hell, even with juice), to get quality muscle. This is why it's usually done in the winter time. At least it works for me and some associates. The sus is good. Have you tried w/some dbol? Or test? I would try to gain as much as possible with those then use the winnie or eq.
Good luck bro.

[turcios3]

Ok, I've been much better about diet this time around. My first cycle was out of country and dieting was an issue then. How about the three injections part. Is this a safe idea? Here's the specifics on my cycle:

Sustanon 250mg once a week (weeks 5 and six double the amount)
Winstrol Depot 50mg every other day
Equipoise 75mg every other day
3 weeks after cycle: Clomid 150mg for ten days, 100 mg for 10 days, 50mg for 10 days

Should I run the Nolva during my cycle?

[duramaxedge]

Bro.. why Andriol?? You were shooting Deca why not shoot some Enanthe??


I say first off.. Get your diet right.. Cause its apparent that its not..

Then.. Do a Enanthe Only or Enanthe Deca cycle.. and run a good PCT..

[longhorn814]

Ok, I've been much better about diet this time around. My first cycle was out of country and dieting was an issue then. How about the three injections part. Is this a safe idea? Here's the specifics on my cycle:

Sustanon 250mg once a week (weeks 5 and six double the amount)
Winstrol Depot 50mg every other day
Equipoise 75mg every other day
3 weeks after cycle: Clomid 150mg for ten days, 100 mg for 10 days, 50mg for 10 days

Should I run the Nolva during my cycle?

sustanon should be shot every other day or every 3rd day..winny should be shot every day...anything under 600mg/wk of Eq is pretty pointless b/c its so weak..oh your PCT needs a lot of work too..how many weeks do you plan on running this?

[green22]

I would say if its only your 3rd cycle just stick with test. At 172 I dont see the need for other compounds. Test and a good diet is all a beginer needs.

[The Deuce]

Well .. the compounds you are suggesting is just weird.. foreign to me i think.. I would never combine those... If I were you I would just use sust and winni and that should do ya fine... make sure you PCT and DIET are solid though bro.

[canadian meat]

And to be honest bro I dont know I would even cycle again untill I was functioning properly down below,I would deff get some bloodwork done If I were in your shoes.

[Booz]

First off, I'm a newby of sorts. My first cycle was 12 weeks Deca, 10 weeks Andriol, and six weeks Turnibol. It went ok, I gained 12 pounds of mass, but lost it after 3 months. I made the mistake of no pct afterwards. I recovered slowly but it took a while to recover my sex drive. No withdrawal, but my gonads never made a full recovery. I can do it about 2 times a day, but not quite like before. Now I'm starting a new cycle but I got protection, plenty of clomid, and nolvadex (just in case).
For this new cycle, I'm running Sustanon, Winnie depot, and Equipoise for 8 weeks, followed by a month of clomid. I have done a lot more research since my first cycle.

My main question: running three injectibles too many?

I know that Sustanon and Winnie depot are a good stack, but do I really need the Equipoise, or should I save that for a future cycle? I welcome any feedback on all of what I wrote, not just the question.

pointless running EQ for any less than 12 weeks,20-25lbs of muscle using those compounds not a chance mate........................

[turcios3]

I plan to run the cycle for eight weeks. I will milk it for what its worth, lift hard and eat a whole lot. If I can't get 20 lbs out of it this cycle that's ok. At least I'm gonna do it safe this time with Nolva during and Clomid afterwards. I'll even buy some HcG afterwards to get my nads at 100%. Their doing well enough for now.

I'd consider Test or Enthanate for a future cycle, but this is what I have right now. As for Dbol and Anadrol no thanks. I won't mess with the upper echelon stuff.

[godkilla]

that cycle is weak and all over the place and your stats suggest that your not eating near enough. i think its safe to say at this point you should focus on your food intake and forget about that fuxed up cycle.

[juicedapple463]

definetly run the eq 12 weeks if your going to, but eat eat eat and work hard

[turcios3]

I'll definitely get some more eq. I will run the Sust a little longer as well. I won't run the Winnie more than 8 weeks though, bcus of its toxicity level. Is it safe to run the Nolva I have along with my cycle and the clomid right after the cycle?