Mr

[The Deuce]

body fat is too high to be useing any aas the best thing to do would be to work on your diet get your b.f to around 12% and then think of doing a simple test cycle at 500mgs ew...

Just a quick question bro... 12% is a lil un-heard of IMO 15% is ideal in my book.. but like I said I have done cycles where my BF was like 20 and it worked out fine.. Grant it I have done quite a few successful cycles... but 12% man?? I have never been 12% in my whole life and I have been using AAS for 3 years. And using them right.. with proper diet/training/ and PCT of course... I know what I am doing and I don't believe that BF % should have anything to do with AAS in experienced users. Yes you shouldnt be 28% or some crazy stuff like that.. but I know PowerLifters... yah look at that avenue... PowerLifters they arent cut by any means but they are ON !! I don't really remember where I am going with all this but... yah IMO I have lost my whole point oh well might as well do this

[nowdenlid]

Just a quick question bro... 12% is a lil un-heard of IMO 15% is ideal in my book.. but like I said I have done cycles where my BF was like 20 and it worked out fine.. Grant it I have done quite a few successful cycles... but 12% man?? I have never been 12% in my whole life and I have been using AAS for 3 years. And using them right.. with proper diet/training/ and PCT of course... I know what I am doing and I don't believe that BF % should have anything to do with AAS in experienced users. Yes you shouldnt be 28% or some crazy stuff like that.. but I know PowerLifters... yah look at that avenue... PowerLifters they arent cut by any means but they are ON !! I don't really remember where I am going with all this but... yah IMO I have lost my whole point oh well might as well do this

i understand what your saying bro but i think most people on this board are / want to use aas for a better looking body and if thats the case the lower your body fat the more sucsess you will have when useing ass.